Dear people
I was reading "Biskop Nicolay Edinger Balle's Slægt gennem 350 År: herunder Linierne von Balle og Balle" online: https://archive.org/details/biskopnicolayedi00gran
On page 58 [Gren II] is Thomas Petersen Balle, but nothing is said about his children except Peter Thomsen Balle who was a pastor. The girls are probably not taken for the name does not pass on, and the boys died young. But who was Marie Elisabeth Schwartzkopff ?
And did some of his girls get married ?
Thomas Petersen Balle (1718-1796)
f. 1718,
d. 15. okt. 1796. Where and when
Kaupmaður, Íslandskaupmaður 1754-1756. Er húseigandi [houseowner] að Matr. 78, Sankt Annæ Gade 111. (islandsk købmand. ) 1758 Kiöbmand og te-kaupmaður, 1761-66 Thehandler (Te-kaupmaður). [Te-merchant ?]
For. *Peter Sørensen Balle,
f. 1687, [Ulstrup, Sönder Onsild, Randers Amt]
Íslandskaupmaður í Kaupmannahöfn.
og k.h. Christine Thomasen,
f. (1690) ?
Kaupmannsfrú í Kaupmannahöfn.
-K.: Marie Elisabeth Schwartzkopff,
f. um 1720 /13/02/1727 Kregme Frederiksborg, Which sogn/parish, Dk
d. Where and when
Parents: ?
Börn þeirra:
Helvig Kirstine Thomsen Balle,
f. 6. aug. 1754 –sk; Skt. Nicolaj kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.1
Peter Thomsen Balle,
f. 29. ág. 1755 –sk; Skt. Nicolaj kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.2
d. 11. apr. 1846,
Prestur í Aaker (Bornholm) 1790.
Isaac Thomsen Balle,
f. 13. jan. 1757 –sk; Trinitatis kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.3
d. ungur.
Isaac Thomsen Balle,
f. 21. maí. 1758 –sk; Trinitatis kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.4
Marie Thomsen Balle,
f. 3. feb. 1761 –sk; Trinitatis kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.5
Christine Elisabeth Thomsen Balle,
f. 10. maí 1762 Trinitatis kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.6
Andreas Daniel Thomsen Balle,
f. 6. júlí 1763 Trinitatis kirkjusókn, Kaupmannahöfn.7
1: KB. Skt. Nicolaj F. 1746-65: opsl. 129. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=156081&side=129
2: KB. Skt. Nicolaj F. 1746-65: opsl. 143. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=156081&side=143
3: KB. Trinitatis, F. 1742-65. Opsl. 276. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=157744&side=276
4: KB. Trinitatis, F. 1742-65. Opsl. 298. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=157744&side=298
5: KB. Trinitatis, F. 1742-65. Opsl. 340: http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=157744&side=340
6: KB. Trinitatis, F. 1742-65. Opsl. 352. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=157744&side=352
7: KB. Trinitatis, F. 1742-65. Opsl. 362. http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=157744&side=362
hej
Maria E.Schwartskopff
She was probably 1 of 3 daugthers in Isac Schwartskopff `s (1686-1754)2. marriage
with Maria Andersdatter Høyer(1701-1740)
Isac was priest in Hillerød and Kregme
mvh
Poul E
Thomas (Petersen) Balle died 15. 10. 1796 in Trompetergangen no. 110, København - Bur. 19. 10. 1796 from Helligånd church (and parish)
(I cannot read the cemetery - ...?... Nordre Kirkegaard)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=204069#204069,38707215
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København, København (Staden), Frimand Kvarter, , Trompetergangen 110, 1, FT-1787, B5765
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Thomas Pedersen Balle 69 Gift Hosbonde Qv.Commissair
Magrethe Elisabeth Swartzkopf 61 Gift Hans Kone
Rebecca Elisabeth Balle 21 Ugift Deres Datter
Mette Marie Kier 21 Ugift Tienestepige
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He was a "Kvarterkommissær" - I do not know what it is in English
http://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=Kvarterkommiss%C3%A6r
It is the same as e Kvarterbetjent (maybe a kind of a policeofficer)
http://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=kvarterbetjent
FamilySearch has got the marriage in 1753 in Kregme parish
Name Thomas Balle
Spouse's Name Magrete Lisbeth Sch.
Event Date 16 Mar 1753
Event Place Kregme, Frederiksborg, Denmark
Notice that her name is not Marie
Citat fra: Thestrup-Bjørn [498] Dato 01 Mar 2017 - 14:43
Thomas (Petersen) Balle died 15. 10. 1796 in Trompetergangen no. 110, København - Bur. 19. 10. 1796 from Helligånd church (and parish)
(I cannot read the cemetery - ...?... Nordre Kirkegaard)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=204069#204069,38707215
Hl. Geistes Nordre Kirkegaard Kilde: OE-1771 - http://ddd.dda.dk/soeg_oeders.asp
Mandens navn: Thomas Balle Mandens erhverv: Thee Huuss Mand
Mandens alder: 52 Mandens civilstand: Gift
Mandens nr. ægteskab: 1 Mand død (ja/nej): Nej
Hustru død (ja(nej): Nej Hustrus alder: 44
Hustrus civilstand: Gift Hustrus nr. ægteskab: 1
Sogn: Sankt Annæ Vester Kvarter Herred: København (Staden)
Amt: København Stednavn: 242b
Indtastningsnr: C7267 Løbenr.: 2022
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Inger Toudal
Selvfølgelig, Inger = Helliggeistes Nordre Kirkegaard
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MARGRETE ELISABETH
born in the night close to 12 o'clock between 13. and 14. febr. 1727 (bapt. 21. Februar)
(her name is not Marie!)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=153001#153001,25482733
= præstens datter in Kregme parish (= her father: Isak Schwartzkopff, died 10. 3. 1754)
13. 24/3 1724 [Hør. og Cantor Fdbg. 28/11 09] Isak Schwartzkopff, f. Vardø 86; M. Rebekka Stendal; St. Bergen 04; C. 16/1 23, l.; Pr. 39; 1 ~ Hillerød 8/5 25 Marie Andersdtr. Høyer, f. 02, † 40; F. And. Christensen, Bager; M. Rebekka Danielsdtr.; 3 S., 3 D.; 2 ~ Kbh. Trin. K. 22/2 41 Hedvig Christine Bruun af Ø. og V. Assels, f. 3/8 12, b. Hillerød 23/10 62; 4 S., 2 D.; see Mathias J. S. i Skovlænge-S.-G.; (O. Lund i Agerskov; C. A. Schmidt i Lundforlund-G).; [† 10/3 1754; Eptph.].
KUM II, s. 296 (»Isaacus Svartzkop«); DanKir bd. 2, s. 1578-79 (se nedenfor).
http://wiberg-net.dk/696-Kregme.htm
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