Hello,
My 3rd great uncle, Lars Peder Andersen married on 19 Oct 1888 in Boeslunde, Slagelse, Soro to Maren Kirstine Olsen.
Marriage #13: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=148464#148464,24534431 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=148464#148464,24534431)
The marriage gives the dates of birth for both. As I already had my great uncle's information I went off in search of Maren Kirstine Olsen's information.
Census 1890 in Boeslunde:
Lars Peder Andersen 27 Gift Husfader Gartner Boeslunde Sogn, Sorø Amt
Maren Kirstine Olsen 31 Gift Husmoder Medhjælper Drøsselbjerg, Sorø Amt
Ewald Andersen 1 Ugift Barn - Boeslunde Sogn, Sorø Amt
Augustinus Andersen Født 12.5-89 Ugift Barn - Boeslunde Sogn, Sorø Amt
Based on the marriage document and the Census information I think I found her birth record in 3 Nov 1858 Drøsselbjerg, Løve, Holbæk on 3 Nov 1858. The Census record indicates Drøsselbjerg, Sorø but I found her birth record in Drøsselbjerg, Holbæk.
Birth #11: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=203432#203432,38580911 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=203432#203432,38580911)
When I look at the birth record it appears that her father is Hans Peder Olsen and her mother is Margrethe Nielsdatter? Pedersdatter?
If she is Margrethe Nielsdatter they married 18 Jul 1858 Drøsselbjerg, Løve, Holbæk, Denmark. He is age 22 and she is age 29.
Hans and Margrethe marriage #2: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=203432#203432,38580945 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=203432#203432,38580945)
The odd thing is that when I went to the Census to see if I could confirm the name of the mother and their children I came across this for 1860:
Parish: Sæby District: Løve
Shire: Holbæk Place name: Sæby
Source entry No: C4688 Record No.: 311
All members of the household
BirTD place:
Hans Peder Olsen 24 Gift Hmd, huusfader Gierslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Margrethe Nielsdatter 30 Gift Hans kone Svallerup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Marie Nielsen 6 Ugift Deres barn Jordløse Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Marie Christine Olsen 2 Ugift Stedbarn Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
What confuses me (maybe these people are just a coincidence): the names are correct for the parents, and their age gap is correct, but Marie Christine Olsen (Maren Christine?), who should be about 2 years old, is listed as a step child and also not born in Drosselbjerg? Is this just a coincidence that the information is so similar to what I am looking for?
I searched the birth record for Ane Marie Nielsen and she is illegitimate and appears to have a mother named Grethe (Margrethe?). Born on 13 Jul 1854 in Jordløse, Skippinge, Holbæk.
Ane Marie birth #7 : https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=204525#204525,38803598 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=204525#204525,38803598)
I could not seem to find my Maren Kirstine Olsen in the Census until 1890 if this 1860 record is not correct. Any ideas?
FT-1890, Neble, Boeslunde sogn: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=59517#59517,12196501 - Family No 10
- Maren Kirstine Olsen, born in Drøselbjerg Sogn, Holbek Amt (error in the indexed census!!)
Her birth in the Kontraministerialbog: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114493#149044,24637166 - No 11
- mother is Margrethe Nielsdatter.
FT-1860, Sæby sogn: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=9670#9670,233255 - left page, top
- error in original census: it seems that Ane Marie should be Stedbarn, Marie Christine deres Barn.
- Kirke Helsinge is a neighbouring parish to Drøsselbjerg - slip of the memory?
Ane Marie Nielsen's mother is Grethe (short for Margrethe) Nielsdatter.
Maren Kristine Olsen's confirmation 1872 in Ørslev sogn, Holbæk amt:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17120031#159286,26781500 - No 5
Ane Marie's confirmation 1868 in Ørslev: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17120031#159285,26781347 - No 4
FT-1870, Kragerup, Ørslev sogn, Holbæk amt: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=53817#53817,11856095 (55 - 59)
Holbæk, Løve, Finderup, Finderup Sogn, Kulby By, En Gaard, 11, FT-1880, D2894
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jørgen Pedersen 42 Gift Husfader, Gårdejer Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Margrethe Pedersen 33 Gift Hans Hustru Ørslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Maren Kirstine Pedersen 11 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Karen Marie Pedersen 10 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Elna Sofie Pedersen 9 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Anna Kristine Pedersen 8 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Agnes Kristine Dagmar Pedersen 6 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Sigrid Kristine Pedersen 1 Ugift Deres Barn Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Maren Larsdatter 74 Enke Husfaders Moder, der af ham forsørges Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Hans Peder Jensen 19 Ugift Tjenestefolk Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Hans Olsen 18 Ugift Tjenestefolk Slagelse
Maren Kristine Olsen 21 Ugift Tjenestefolk Drøsselbjerg Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Marie Kristensen 18 Ugift Tjenestefolk Sæby Sogn, Holbæk Amt
This could be her mother:
Holbæk, Løve, Gørlev, Gørlev By, En Gaard - Aagaard, 1, FT-1880, D5037
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jørgen Hellemann 66 Ugift Husfader. Proprietær Rye Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Marie Magdalene Helens 57 Ugift Husbestyrerinde Sørbymagle Sogn, Sorø Amt
Johan Frederik Vilhelm Hansen 25 Ugift Gartner Kalundborg
Hans Jensen 31 Ugift Tjenestekarl Bakkendrup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Margrethe Pedersen 35 Ugift Tjenestepige Drøsselbjerg Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Marie Sørensen 24 Ugift Tjenestepige Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Karen Marie Rasmussen 18 Ugift Tjenestepige Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Johannes Henrik Olsen 39 Gift Husfader. Forpagter Roskilde
Elisabeth Olsen 40 Gift Hans Kone København
Jørgen Hellemann Olsen 10 Ugift Deres Barn Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Johannes Hellemann Olsen Under 1 Ugift Deres Barn Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Margrethe Bangert 31 Ugift Lærerinde København
Johan Philip Muus !! 30 Ugift Forvalter Vordingborg
Thygo Rosmos Thaning 18 Ugift Landvæsenselev Finderup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Louise Augusta Wittrock 22 Ugift Husjomfru Bregninge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Anna Cathrine Becker 28 Ugift Mejerske Kerteminde
Ane Nielsen 22 Ugift Mejerilærling Hersnap, Dalby Sogn, Odense Amt
Jens Hansen 29 Ugift Tjenestekarl Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Jørgen Sørensen 39 Ugift Tjenestekarl Kirke Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Niels Peder Nielsen 22 Ugift Tjenestekarl Bakkendrup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Christen Jensen 30 Ugift Tjenestekarl Hallenslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Lars Jakobsen 18 Ugift Tjenestekarl Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Frederik Hansen 31 Ugift Tjenestekarl Gierslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Jens Olsen 16 Ugift Tjenestekarl Gerlev Sogn, Sorø Amt
Jørgen Peder Larsen 21 Ugift Tjenestekarl Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Hans Peder Nielsen 15 Ugift Tjenestekarl Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Maren Sofie Olsen 29 Ugift Tjenestepige Svallerup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Sidse Marie Hansen 27 Ugift Tjenestepige Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Marie Olsen 20 Ugift Tjenestepige Gerlev Sogn, Sorø Amt
Maren Sofie Hansen 24 Ugift Tjenestepige Gierslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Maren Sofie Kristensen 26 Ugift Tjenestepige Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Hanne Sofie Larsen 24 Ugift Tjenestepige Store Fuglede Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Margrethe Nielsen 50 Enke Tjenestepige Svallerup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Gundild Kirstine Kristensen 17 Ugift Tjenestepige Ruds Vedby Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Dorthea Sofie Nielsen 14 Ugift Tjenestepige Gørlev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Holbæk, Løve, Gierslev, Løve, 17, 114 - F3, FT-1901, D6311
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Christian Johannes Kargh 1838 8/3 Ugift - Fattighjælp Gierslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Jens Peder Olsen 1828 3/1 Enkemand - Fattighjælp Gierslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Johanne Marie Bisser 1830 26/3 Enke - Fattighjælp Kr. Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Ane Kirstine Beck 1822 2/2 Enke - Fattighjælp Kr. Helsinge Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Mette Hansdatter 1821 11/12 Enke - Fattighjælp Hallenslev Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Margrethe Nielsdatter 1829 8/5 Enke - Fattighjælp Svallerup Sogn, Holbæk Amt
Arrived: 1900 Last place of residence: Solbjerg Sogn. Holbæk Amt
When married: 1857 Spouse dead: 1875
Living children: 4 Dead children: 1
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Maybe Maren Christine Olsen had a certificate of baptism (birth certificate) signed in Kirke Helsinge,
and that's why her birth place in FT-1860 and FT-1870 is recorded as Kirkehelsinge?
See https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114493#149044,24637099
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17116618#149040,24636468
- and https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114489#149040,24636468
The two parishes were in the same pastorat: https://www.sa.dk/daisy/arkivskaber_detaljer?a=kirke+helsinge+dr%C3%B8sselbjerg+pastorat&b=&c=&d=1&e=2017&f=&g=&h=&ngid=793654&ngnid=793657&heid=&henid=&epid=&faid=&meid=&m2rid=&side=1&sort=3&dir=a&gsc=&int=&ep=&es=&ed=
I'm sure you've found the right person.
Best regards,
Inger
Inger, thank you so much for all of that helpful information. I feel confident I have the right people now and have added a great deal of information to her tree.