I am looking for information on Ludvig Nicolai Müller who I believe was born on 20 May 1852 in Sønder Lygum, Slesvig. He married Dorthea Jensen (18 Jul 1860 - ) in Odense on 27 October 1882 and was in the cavalry.
I know a great deal about one of his sons – Otto Müller (17 August 1886 - 1 August 1962) – but would like to find out about Ludvig's parents and other children.
I am willing to pay for focused research.
Thanks
Dave Rimmer
davrimmer@gmail.com
Here is a little information from Odense with names of his children:
http://www.odensedatabasen.dk/kilde/person/18529999063 (http://www.odensedatabasen.dk/kilde/person/18529999063)
His brother living in Odense 1880
http://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid9578161 (http://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid9578161)
Ribe, Skast, Bryndum, Bryndum, Bryndum Præstegaaard, 1 F1, FT-1860, C5679
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Caspar Christophersen Müller 46 Gift Sognepræst og Huusfader Fohl Haderslev Amt
Best man at Marriage
Hedevig Margretha Müller født Hermann 32 Gift hans Hustru Rødby Maribo Amt
Diderik Müller 9 Ugift deres Børn Rødby Maribo Amt
Maria Margrethe Müller 7 Ugift deres Børn Rødby Maribo Amt
Christian Müller 5 Ugift deres Børn her i Sognet
Anna Kirstine Müller 2 Ugift deres Børn Her i Sognet
Ludvig Michal Müller 8 Ugift Huusfaderens Brodersøn. der af ham forsørges S. Lygum Tønder Amt This is Ludvig Nicolai
Anna Hansine Camilla Hermann 19 Ugift Huusmoderens Søster Rødby Maribo Amt
Thora Jensine Bruun 35 Ugift Jomfru Nykjøbing paa Falster
Niels Jensen Friis 30 Ugift Tjenestefolk V. Nebel Sogn Ribe Amt
Karen Kirstine Olesen 23 Ugift Tjenestefolk Her i Sognet
Petrea Christine Pedersen 18 Ugift Tjenestefolk Her i Sognet
http://www.onegreatworld.com/genealogy/Brother/f4191.html
Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Overgade 39, ??, 1, FT-1860, B0289
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Poul Hannibal Kragh 40 Gift overlærer ved Odense Kathedralskole, huusfader Seestrand, Kolding, Ribe Amt
Nielsine Elisa Cathinka født Brohm 35 Gift hans kone Odense
Albert Christian Kragh Müller 6 Ugift deres pleiesøn Sønder Lygum sogn ved Tønder
Peter Casper Wessel Brown 15 Ugift skolediscipel, søn af sognepræst Brown i Sønder Høirup, Svendborg Amt Helnæs sogn, Odense Amt
Niels Wilhelm Møller 14 Ugift skolediscipel, søn af afdøde proprietair Møller til Ørritslevgaard i Odense Amt Otterup sogn, Odense Amt
Gjertrud Marie Knudsen 24 Ugift tjenestepige Wissenberg sogn, Odense Amt
Ludvig Nicolai's marriage 1882: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138175#180634,30657859
In the marriage record the best man is said to be from Horsens:
Skanderborg, Nim, Horsens Købstad, Horsens Købstad, Havnealleen 8, Forhuset, 1 ste Sal, matrikkelnummer 831, 2, FT-1880
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Casper Christoffer Mûller 65 Gift Husfader. ?? Fohl i Tørring ??
Hedevig Margrethe født Hansen 51 Gift Hans Hustru Rødby
Anna Kirstine Mûller 21 Ugift Deres Datter ?? Sogn, Skads??
Frederik Imanuel Mûller 12 Ugift Deres Søn. ?? ?? Sogn, Skads??
Poul Mûller 10 Ugift Deres Søn. ?? ?? Sogn, Skads??
Marie Caroline Petersen 18 Ugift Tjenestepige Horsens
At the baptism of Ludvig Nicolai's daughter Johanne in 1883, her father's brother Brygger Kragh Müller is witness:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17138167#180582,30642613
Ludvig Nicolai's brother as a foster child in Odense:
Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Overgade 39, ??, 1, FT-1860, B0289
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Poul Hannibal Kragh 40 Gift overlærer ved Odense Kathedralskole, huusfader Seestrand, Kolding, Ribe Amt
Nielsine Elisa Cathinka født Brohm 35 Gift hans kone Odense
Albert Christian Kragh Müller 6 Ugift deres pleiesøn Sønder Lygum sogn ved Tønder
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Gjertrud Marie Knudsen 24 Ugift tjenestepige Wissenberg sogn, Odense Amt
In the 1870 census he is listed as an adopted child:
Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Klingenberg, 32, Forhus, 1403, FT-1870, D4595
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Poul Hannibal Kragh 49 Gift Husfader Overlærer Seest, Ribe Amt
Elise Kirstine Cathinka Kragh 44 Gift Husmoder Odense
Albert Christian Kragh-Müller 15 Ugift Adoptiv Barn Sønder Løgum, Tønder, Jylland
Christiane Frederikke Petersen 25 Ugift Tjenestetyende Søften, Aahus Amt
Here with his family in the 1890 census:
Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, Nørregade 51, forhus 2 sal, 1 F2, FT-1890, B0315
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Albert Christian Kragh-Müller 35 Gift husfader brygmester S. Løgum, Slesvig
Mariane Marie Sofie Kragh-Müller født Thaning 29 Gift husmoder Kjøbenhavn
Eleba Kragh-Müller 6 Ugift barn Ringsted
Poul Kragh-Müller 5 Ugift barn do [Ringsted]
Hanne Mortensen 23 Ugift medhjælpende i huset Skovballe, Svendborg Amt
Albert Christian: http://www.odensedatabasen.dk/kilde/person/18549999091
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Father Christian Frederik Müller
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=180628#180628,30656080
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Christian Frederik
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=201414#201414,38150908
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Ludvig Nicolai's and Albert Christian's father Christian Frederik Müller was married to Catharina Maria Carstens
22 Jul. 1851 in Herslev church:
http://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=264958&sort=e
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17123704#163905,27523678
This must be the bride:
Vejle, Brusk, Herslev, Herslef Bye, Præstegaard, 1, FT-1850, D2782
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Jørgen Gad 51 Gift Konsistorialraad og Sognepræst Røe Præstegd. paa Bornholm
Frederike Gad 50 Gift Hans Kone Roskilde
Sine Sophie Gad 17 Ugift Deres Datter Her i Sognet
Christiane Gad 47 Ugift Huusjomfru Røe Præstegd. paa Bornholm
Cathrine M. Carstensen 25 Ugift Lærerinde Flensborg
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- and this could be her and her parents:
Sydslesvig, , Flensburg Sankt Maria, Flensburg Sankt Maria 2ter District, Grosse Strasse Nr. 41, 42 F1, FT-1845, C5605
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Georg Fried. Carstens 51 Verheir. Schumachermeister Flensburg
Ingeborg Mrg. Carstens 47 Verheir. seine Frau Flensburg
Catharina Maria Carstens 19 Unverheir. deren Kinder Flensburg
Louise Botilde Carstens 14 Unverheir. deren Kinder Flensburg
Georg Friedr. Carstens 4 Unverheir. deren Kinder Flensburg
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Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Hi.
Carstens relations in Flensburg, (now since 1920 Gernamy) =Adelby, (my ovn fam.relations) possible some informations here:
look up at Helmut Martensen´s web. www.adelby.com
Lise Østerberg Bahr
Hi again.
P.s. My family too, lived in Flensburg, at Grosse Strasse (numbers - se the streets (and families) in Helmut Martensens web.side = adelby.com
Kind regards
Lise Oesterberg Bahr
Ludvig Nicolai moved to Copenhagen:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3417237&searchname=polit_adv
- according to the 1906 and 1911 censuses another son, Ernst, was born 29 Mar. 1890 at Frederiksberg, Copenhagen:
1906: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=12945#12945,427621
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=12945#12945,427622
1911: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=65394#65394,12593208
Johanne b. 1883:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257020&searchname=polit_adv
Inger b. 1884:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2256942&searchname=polit_adv
Otto b. 1886:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257416&searchname=polit_adv
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=44584&searchname=polit_adv
Ernst b. 1890:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2256658&searchname=polit_adv
His baptism: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17114817#149653,24760682
The Müller family in the 1890 census Frederiksberg:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60258#60258,12251893
One of the witnesses at Ernst's baptism was Prof. Müller, Ludvig Nicolai's uncle Niels Viborg Müller:
1890 census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60416#60416,12263333
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257367&searchname=polit_adv
The witness Miss Carstens could be Ludvig Nicolai's aunt:
1890 census: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=60259#60259,12251962
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1931608&searchname=polit_adv
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=3311921&searchname=polit_adv
She died 13 Jul. 1919, unfortunately no info about parents:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17117409#154002,25679723
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
The probate after Augusta Emilie Johanne Carstens gives the forllowing information:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14809180#51120,37875094
- she is the aunt of Ludvig Nicolai Müller and Albert Christian Kragh-Müller
- their mother Cathrine Müller née Carstens and the deceased had no other siblings (if this is correct, it seems I found the wrong family in the 1845 census for Flensburg)
- Ludvig and Albert had a sister Johanne Kirstine Müller b. 15 Apr. 1856, who died unmarried June 1878 in Copenhagen
København, København (Staden), Klædebo Kvarter, Store Kannikestræde 34a/13, Forhuset, 2. Sal, 220, FT-1860, D6863
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place:
Augusta Eleonora Petersen f. Grundtvig 51 Enke Enke-Provstinde, Husmoder Henne, Ribe Amt
Theodor Christian Petersen 25 Ugift hendes Barn, Cand. phil. Holstebro
Sophie Jacobine Mathilde Petersen 23 Ugift hendes Barn Holstebro
Johanne Kirstine Møller 4 Ugift hendes Plejedatter Sønder-Lygum, Tønder Amt
Augusta Emilie Johanne Carstens 31 Ugift Lærerinde Flensborg
Hans Arnts 21 Ugift Assistent i Privatbanken Holstenborg, Grønland
Margrethe Kirstine Mogensen 23 Ugift Tjenestepige Kjøbenhavn
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=10131#10131,242771
Maybe Augusta Emilie Johanne is here:
Sydslesvig, , Flensburg Sankt Maria, Flensburg Sankt Maria 16ter District, Nordermarkt No. 464, 462 F4, FT-1845, C5605
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place
Marcus Lorenzen 56 Verheir. Schiffsmakler Tonder Amt
Maria Lorenzen 54 Verheir. seine Frau Flensburg
Ingeborg D. Lorenzen 15 Unverheir. seine Tochter Flensburg
Auguste C. J. Carstens 16 Unverheir. Mündel. und Pflegetochter Flensburg
Elisabeth Brock 25 Unverheir. Dienstmagd Warde
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
Ludvig Nicolai's brother Albert Christian founded a brewery in Næstved in 1891, which he managed until 1898:
http://huse-i-naestved.dk/krkgd/vordingborgvej11.html
The daughters Helga and Anna were born in Næstved:
1921 census Frederiksberg: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=81158#81158,13668984
Albert Christian's daughter Ebba:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=1831040&searchname=polit_adv
- son Poul:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257468&searchname=polit_adv
- and son Martin:
http://www.politietsregisterblade.dk/component/sfup/?controller=politregisterblade&task=viewRegisterblad&id=2257308&searchname=polit_adv
Best regards,
Inger Toudal
The probate after Johanne Kirstine Müller, who died June 1878, provides no further information:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=14809180#51070,37834639
- both her parents are dead, and her only siblings are L. N. Müller and A. C. Kragh-Müller.
Best regards,
Inger Toudal