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Titel: Peder Nielsen status in Holbaek
Indlæg af: Kerry Larson Dato 23 Okt 2019 - 02:42
Regarding the 1882 confirmation record of Rasmus Nielsen, https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/17935982?h=299adf (https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/17935982?h=299adf) or https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=383043#383043,74038778 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=383043#383043,74038778) (#3), what is the location of his birth or residence (?abjerg)?  For his father, it says Indsidder (=lodger).  What is the connotation for using that word?  Is this an indication that Peder is alive?  In the 1870 census, two years after Rasmus' birth, Peder is not found with his wife, Christiane Hansine Christine Christiansen, and family.  I assumed this was because he was deceased, but does the census say that she is still married, not widowed?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-R78Y-1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS21-R78Y-1) >1/2 way down
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1483/census1870/opslag15296373 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1483/census1870/opslag15296373)
Were separations recorded in some manner around 1870?  The 1880 census, https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid9898371 (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid9898371), does record her as being a widow even thought Peder is listed in the confirmation record two years later.
Titel: Sv: Peder Nielsen status in Holbaek
Indlæg af: Mike Lyng Dato 23 Okt 2019 - 03:11
Confirmation 1882

Residence: Sobjerg  https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skellebjerg_Sogn
Birth: Flinterup  https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=152666#152666,25419294
Titel: Sv: Peder Nielsen status in Holbaek
Indlæg af: Mike Lyng Dato 23 Okt 2019 - 03:39
Holbæk, Merløse, Tersløse, Tersløse By, Et Huus, 103, FT-1880, C1488
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Christiane Hansine Christiansen     49     Enke (widow)   Nyde Fattigunderstøttelse          Kjøbenhavn [København] 
Rasmus Nielsen     11     Ugift     hendes Søn          Flinterup Sogn, Sorø Amt 
Hans Peter Christian Petersen     25     Gift     Arbeismand          Taastrup Sogn, Holbæk Amt [Store Taastrup sogn, Holbæk amt] 
Ane Magrethe Christensen     22     Gift     Inderste          Her i Sognet [Tersløse sogn, Holbæk amt] 
Ane Sofie Petersen     1     Ugift     hendes Datter          Her i Sognet [Tersløse sogn, Holbæk amt] 
Titel: Sv: Peder Nielsen status in Holbaek
Indlæg af: Grethe Leerbech Dato 23 Okt 2019 - 12:23
Hey Kerry
An indsidder or lodger is a man who rent his house and land. Sometimes he has only an appartment in a larger farm or a small house on a larger farms land . You could say he is a kind of small-holder.
In 1870 Christiane is married not a widow, maybe her husband is in hospital at least he is away, but where is not mentioned.
At the confirmation it is normal to tell whom the childs father is, even if he is dead. The priest writes his fathers name not the mothers (widows).
Titel: Sv: Peder Nielsen status in Holbaek
Indlæg af: Kerry Larson Dato 23 Okt 2019 - 17:28
Thanks so much for your help Grethe and Mike.