Hello,
This is what I know about Karen Jensdatter who married Soren Baerntsen Hyld 21 Dec 1816 in Eldrup, Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg. It says he was 32 and she was 28 but as you will see on most of the Census documents there was a 7 year age-gap between Soren and Karen.
Their marriage (bottom left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170591#170591,28642847 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170591#170591,28642847)
I find them in the 1834, 1840, 1845, 1850 and 1860 Census documents as follows:
Year: FT-1834 Source reference: side 329
Cadastre/Address: Et Huus
Household No: 3
Name: Søren Bernthsen Gender: M
Age: 52 Civil status: Gift
Occupation: Indsidder, dagleier
Parish: Tolstrup District: Voer
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Tolstrup Bye
Source entry No: C0577 Record No.: 18
Søren Bernthsen 52 Gift Indsidder, dagleier
Karen Jensdatter 45 Gift Hans kone [Søren Bernthsen]
Johan Bernth Sørensen 14 Ugift Deres børn [Søren Bernthsen og Karen Jensdatter]
Caroline Sørensdatter 12 Ugift Deres børn [Søren Bernthsen og Karen Jensdatter]
Hans Jørgen Sørensen 10 Ugift Deres børn [Søren Bernthsen og Karen Jensdatter]
Kirstine Sørensdatter 8 Ugift Deres børn [Søren Bernthsen og Karen Jensdatter]
Ane Marie Sørensdatter 5 Ugift Deres børn [Søren Bernthsen og Karen Jensdatter]
Year: FT-1840 Source reference: 196
Cadastre/Address: et Huus
Household No: 95 Number af families/house: 1
Name: Søren Berenthsen
Age: 58 Civil status: Gift
Occupation: Indsidder - Uld- og Skindhandler
Parish: Tolstrup District: Voer
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Tolstrup
Source entry No: C6540 Record No.: 521
Søren Berenthsen 58 Gift Indsidder - Uld- og Skindhandler
Karen Jensdatter 51 Gift hans Kone
Hans Jørgen Sørensen 15 Ugift deres Børn
Kirstine Sørensdatter 13 Ugift deres Børn
Ane Marie Sørensdatter 11 Ugift deres Børn
Sophie Dorthea Sørensdatter 22 Ugift deres Datter
Trine Carlone Hansdatter? 1 Ugift hendes uægte Barn
Year: FT-1845 Source reference: 239
Cadastre/Address: et Huus
Household No: 73 Number af families/house: 1
Name: Søren Berntsen
Age: 63 Civil status: Gift
Birth place: Nim S Skdbrg A
Occupation: Inds: Dagleier
Parish: Tolstrup District: Voer
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Tolstrup Bye
Source entry No: B3903 Record No.: 431
Søren Berntsen 63 Gift Inds: Dagleier Nim S Skdbrg A
Karen Jensdatter 55 Gift hans Kone Kattrup S Skdbrg A
Hans J Sørensen 21 Ugift deres Søn, Væver Her i Sognet
Trine Carol: Hanberg 6 Ugift deres Pleiedatter Her i Sognet (this is their granddaughter)
Year: FT-1850 Source reference: 230
Cadastre/Address: et Huus
Household No: 92 Number af families/house: 1
Name: Søren Berntsen
Age: 68 Civil status: Gift
Birth place: Nim S. Skbrg. A.
Occupation: Inds. Dagleier
Parish: Tolstrup District: Voer
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Tolstrup
Source entry No: B7752 Record No.: 560
Søren Berntsen 68 Gift Inds. Dagleier Nim S. Skbrg. A.
Karen Jensdatter 60 Gift hans Kone Kattrup S. Skbrg. A.
Hans Jørgen Sørensen 26 Ugift deres Søn Væver her i Sognet
Trine Caroline Hanberg 11 Ugift Pleiedatter her i Sognet
Year: FT-1860 Source reference: Optegnelse s. 142
Cadastre/Address: Et Huus
Household No: 113
Name: Søren Berntsen Gender: M
Age: 82 Civil status: Gift
Birth place: Nim Sogn, Skanderborg Amt
Position in household: Indsidder. handler med Uld og Skind. Huusfader
Parish: Tolstrup District: Voer
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Tolstrup
Source entry No: D5999 Record No.: 516
Name: Age: Married?: Pos. in household: Occupation: BirTD place:
Søren Berntsen 82 Gift Indsidder. handler med Uld og Skind. Huusfader Nim Sogn, Skanderborg Amt
Karen Jensdatter 78 Gift hans Kone Her i Sognet
On two of the Census documents Karen says she was born in Kattrup and in one she say Tolstrup. I realise they are close together but I took her to mean she was born in Kattrup. Her marriage age and all but the 1860 Census document indicate a birth year of around 1789. I could only find one Karen Jensdatter born in Kattrup, 30 May 1789, between 1786-1792 here (top right) :https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=165455#165455,27792666 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=165455#165455,27792666)
The problem I am having with this birth record is that the father is Jens Caspersen. None of Karen's children, grandchildren or great-grandchildren have the name Casper as I would expect given the naming conventions at the time. She does have 2 sons: Johan Baernt Sorensen Hyld and Hans Jorgen Sorensen Hyld.
In Tolstrup there is only one Karen born to a Jens that is close to a 1789 birth year and I do not think this can be her because of the gap.
1785
fol 49
Jens Nielsens barn af Lykkeberg - Karen
I find Jens Caspersen in the 1797 and 1801 Census documents married to a Margrethe (it says Sorensdatter in 1787 but I think this is a mistake because they are on their first marriage in both Census and their 1st son was named Christen, 2nd son Casper) Christensdatter. None of Karen's daughters or granddaughters are named Margrethe.
I could not find a death record for Karen Jensdatter. The closest I could find, assuming she remarried after the death of her 1st husband 29 Apr 1862 in Tolstrup, was this record in 1869 but it says she was 84 years old making her 4 years too old.
Possible death Karen Jensdatter #2 : https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170593#170593,28643432 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170593#170593,28643432)
Is it plausible to think that Jens Caspersen is really Karen's father and Margrethe Christensdatter is her mother?
Any help is appreciated.
Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas?
I think that Karen Jensdatter is a daughter of Jens Caspersen and Margrethe Christensdatter in Kattrup, bapt. May 30, 1790.
At the 1787 census the oldest son is Christen (12), so the surname of Margrethe (Sørensdatter) must be
wrong in connection with Christensdatter in 1801.
1787 they are in their 1. marriage https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=696#696,53858
1801 they are in their 1. marriage https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=26297#26297,2900014
You write, that none on Karens children get the name Casper.
The naming conventions do NOT say so - they say that a son should be named Jens.
And Karen may have had her reasons not to name a son after her father.
I didn't find the death of (the correct) Karen Jensdatter in Tolstrup. Maybe she moved to one of her children after Sørens death.
mvh Ole
Karen and Søren had a daughter Anemargrethe Sørrens Datter 15 Jan. 1815 in Eldrup, Tolstrup parish, before they were married:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170591#170591,28642775 - No 8
Skanderborg, Voer, Kattrup, Borupgaard, , , FT-1787, C4107
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Jens Caspersen 46 Gift mand inderst, daglejer
Magrethe Sørensdatter 38 Gift hans kone
Christen Jensen 12 Ugift deres barn
Casper Jensen 6 Ugift deres barn
Søren Jensen 4 Ugift deres barn
Kiersten Jensdatter 1 Ugift deres barn
Skanderborg, Voer, Kattrup, Bemte. Boerup, , 7, FT-1801, b8506
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Jens Caspersen 52 Gift Mand Jordløs huusmand og tiener
Margrete Christensdatter 40 Gift Hans kone
Kirsten Jensdatter 14 Ugift Deres børn
Karen Jensdatter 12 Ugift Deres børn
Sofie Jensdatter 6 Ugift Deres børn
The marriage of Karen Jensdatter's (b. 1790) parents could be here in Østbirk Parish:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/yd-ost/ostbirk-1780-89.htm
1780, fol 66b
ungkarl Jens Caspersen og pige Margrethe (mlg) af Holm (copuleret)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172883,29027244 - right page, No 4
- unfortunately, Margrethe's patronymic is not mentioned.
Maybe Jens Caspersen died 26 Mar. 1806 in Eldrup, Tolstrup parish: http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm
1806, fol 4a
Jens Caspersen af Eldrup - 69 år
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642696 - left page
________________________________________________________________________________________________________
This could be worth looking into:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm#1810
1812, fol 12b
Karen Jensdatters uægte barn af Eldrup - Jens Peder (Anders Hansen af Ørskovgård)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642704 - right page, top
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Inger Toudal
No doubt that it is the same Jens Caspersen, who died in Eldrup in Tolstrup p. in 1806.
I didn't find the death of his wife Margrethe Christensdatter.
By following JC's son Christen in the levying rolls I found them moving from Kattrup to Tolstrup p. after 1801
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17837,918385 left
E110-88 Christen - Landsoldat in 1799 in Oldenb. Inf. Reg. 7-1
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17840,919267 left no. 88-70
and
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17848,921603 right
70-58 same data + Overcomplet at Sess. 1806 and Afsked (dismissed) at Sess.1807.
And I also found the birth of Karens illegitimate son Jens Peter in 1812. So here is the naming of her father.
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/nim-unde/nim-1748db.htm
1781, fol 95
Jens Caspersens søn - Casper
Nim parish: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125352#166964,28035343 - right page, No 4
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/kat-orid/kattrup-1770dd.htm
1793, fol 247
Jens Caspersens søn Casper af Borup - 11 år (Kattrup parish)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
This is probably the son Christen:
1776, fol 83
Margrethe Jensdatters uægte søn - Christen (Søren Tangaard, gift mand)
Nim parish: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125352#166964,28035337 - right page, No 2
In the levying rolls, Jens Casperen's (step)son is called Christen Sørensen.
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Inger
The information in the levying roll 1789 for Kattrup parish regarding the birth place for Christen and Casper is wrong:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17827,915092 - No 54, 55, and 56
- Søren was born in Borup, Kattrup parish, but his two elder brothers were born in Nim parish.
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/kat-orid/kattrup-1770db.htm
1783, fol 46
Jens Caspersens barn af Borup - Søren
1792: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17831,916071 - No 54, 55, and 56
1795: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#18029,972410 - No 48, 49, and 50
- Christen moves to lægd 93, which is Tolstrup parish, in 1797 (letter E)
1798: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17837,918377 - No 42
- Søren moves to lægd 100, which is Nim parish, in 1799 (letter G)
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Maybe the Karen Jensdatter you are looking for: http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm
1809, fol 9a
Karen Jensdatters uægte barn af Eldrup - Rasmus (Søren Rasmussen af Rådved)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642701 - left page, Nov. 5
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Inger
Levying roll 1797, Tolstrup: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#18031,973065 - No E 110
- Christen Sørensen, an illegitimate child, whose mother is now married to Jens Caspersen.
Unfortunately, the name of the mother is not mentioned. Is she Margrethe Jensdatter, Sørensdatter, or Christensdatter?
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Confirmation 1824 in Tolstrup of Rasmus Sørensen, b. 1809 in Eldrup:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170591#170591,28642835 - No 4
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Inger
A Margrethe Sørensdatter gave birth to a stillborn baby boy in Nim parish 1779:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/nim-unde/nim-1748db.htm
1779, fol 91
Margrethe Sørensdatters uægte dødfødte søn (vejfarende karl, navn ukendt)
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A strong candidate in Østbirk parish for Jens Caspersen found in Kattrup 1787 and 1801:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/yd-ost/ostbirk-1740-49.htm
1745, fol 70
Casper Jensens barn af Monbjerg - Jens
1749, fol 78
Casper Jensen af Monbjerg (begravet)
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/yd-ost/ydost-1731-39.htm
1737, fol 67
Casper Jensen og Karen Enevoldsdatter af Monbjerg (copuleret)
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Inger
Østbirk parish:
Marriage 1737: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027104 - right page, bottom
Baptism 1745: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172881,29026982 - No 10
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027143 - left page, middle
Burial 1749: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172881,29026990 - right page, top
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027093 - right page, middle
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Stillbirth 1779 in Nim: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125352#166964,28035341 - right page, No 8
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Inger
I followed Søren Jensen b. 1783 in Borup, Kattrup parish, in the levying rolls. He ended up in Eldrup (Tolstrup parish):
1813, Nim parish (lægd 100): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17873,929509 - No 65
- still in Eldrup etc. Moved to lægd 93 (Tolstrup parish).
Søren Berntsen Hyld, born in Nim parish, in Eldrup, Tolstrup parish 1817 (lægd 93):
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=16481031#17892,934919 - No C 135
Christen Sørensen, Huusmand af Eldrup, who is witness at the marriage in 1816, could be Karen's half-brother (b. 1776 in Nim).
The brothers could be here:
Skanderborg, Voer, Tolstrup, Eldrup, Et Huus, 106, FT-1834, C0577
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Christen Sørensen 57 Gift Indsidder, væver
Kirsten Lausdatter 59 Gift Hans kone [Christen Sørensen]
Marie Kirstine Lausdatter 8 Ugift Deres pleiedatter [Christen Sørensen og Kirsten Lausdatter]
Anders Christensen 25 Ugift I væverlære
Christen Sørensen died 8 Dec. 1834: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127172#170592,28643188 - No 6
Skanderborg, Voer, Tolstrup, Søeholmhuus, Et Huus, 96, FT-1834, C0577
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Søren Jensen 52 Gift Indsidder, dagleier
Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter 41 Gift Hans kone [Søren Jensen]
Ane Kirstine Sørensdatter 14 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Magrethe Sørensdatter 12 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Terkel Sørensen 9 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Ester Sørensdatter 7 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Mikkel Sørensen 2 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Marcus Sørensen 2 Ugift Deres børn, de to sidstnævnte ere tvillinger [Søren Jensen og Ane Marie Mikkelsdatter]
Skanderborg, Voer, Tolstrup, Gjedved Bye, et Huus, 3, FT-1845, B3903
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birth place :
Søren Jensen 64 Gift Indsidder, Dagleier Kattrup S Skbrg A
Ane Marie Mikkelsd[atter] 51 Gift hans Kone Ørntslev S Skbrg A
Mikkel Sørensen 15 Ugift deres Børn til hvis Opdragelse de nyde Almisse Her i Sognet
Marius Sørensen 13 Ugift deres Børn til hvis Opdragelse de nyde Almisse Her i Sognet
Christine Sørensdatter 10 Ugift deres Børn til hvis Opdragelse de nyde Almisse Her i Sognet
Siliane Laursen 3 Ugift Pleiebarn Her i Sognet
Sidsel Mikkelsdatter 69 Enke Aftægtskone Her i Sognet
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Inger
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 06 Okt 2018 - 11:43
I think that Karen Jensdatter is a daughter of Jens Caspersen and Margrethe Christensdatter in Kattrup, bapt. May 30, 1790.
At the 1787 census the oldest son is Christen (12), so the surname of Margrethe (Sørensdatter) must be
wrong in connection with Christensdatter in 1801.
1787 they are in their 1. marriage https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=696#696,53858
1801 they are in their 1. marriage https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=26297#26297,2900014
You write, that none on Karens children get the name Casper.
The naming conventions do NOT say so - they say that a son should be named Jens.
And Karen may have had her reasons not to name a son after her father.
I didn't find the death of (the correct) Karen Jensdatter in Tolstrup. Maybe she moved to one of her children after Sørens death.
mvh Ole
Thank you Ole! I just wanted to be sure that it is reasonable that Karen did not name a child Casper or Jens. I understand that it would normally be Jens. It is only that the name Casper never carries forward to her future ancestors and I found that odd given that it is not as common a name as say Jens, Hans, Niels, Peder, etc.
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 06 Okt 2018 - 13:25
Karen and Søren had a daughter Anemargrethe Sørrens Datter 15 Jan. 1815 in Eldrup, Tolstrup parish, before they were married:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=170591#170591,28642775 - No 8
Oh, wow, thank you Inger. I do not know how I missed her in my searching the parish records.
Citat
The marriage of Karen Jensdatter's (b. 1790) parents could be here in Østbirk Parish:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/yd-ost/ostbirk-1780-89.htm
1780, fol 66b
ungkarl Jens Caspersen og pige Margrethe (mlg) af Holm (copuleret)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172883,29027244 - right page, No 4
- unfortunately, Margrethe's patronymic is not mentioned.
I think that is them as well but it is too bad that poor Margrethe keeps having so many different patronymics.
Citat
Maybe Jens Caspersen died 26 Mar. 1806 in Eldrup, Tolstrup parish: http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm
1806, fol 4a
Jens Caspersen af Eldrup - 69 år
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642696 - left page
I saw that one as well but I was hesitant because his age in the Census documents seem to have him born around 1741 and the death at age 69 would have him born 1737?
Citat
This could be worth looking into:
http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm#1810
1812, fol 12b
Karen Jensdatters uægte barn af Eldrup - Jens Peder (Anders Hansen af Ørskovgård)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642704 - right page, top
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Inger Toudal
That is a possibility. It would be nice if these children (ie: Jens Peder and Ane Margrethe) showed up on a Census with the family to at least feel a little more confident. I am very confident about Ane Margrethe but not so much Jens Peder.
I am going to have a look at the sponsors for the baptisms of Karen Jensdatter's children to see if there are matches with Jens Peder.
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 06 Okt 2018 - 14:36
No doubt that it is the same Jens Caspersen, who died in Eldrup in Tolstrup p. in 1806.
I didn't find the death of his wife Margrethe Christensdatter.
By following JC's son Christen in the levying rolls I found them moving from Kattrup to Tolstrup p. after 1801
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17837,918385 left
E110-88 Christen - Landsoldat in 1799 in Oldenb. Inf. Reg. 7-1
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17840,919267 left no. 88-70
and
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17848,921603 right
70-58 same data + Overcomplet at Sess. 1806 and Afsked (dismissed) at Sess.1807.
And I also found the birth of Karens illegitimate son Jens Peter in 1812. So here is the naming of her father.
Ole, thank you so much! This makes it clear that Christen Sorensen was illegitimate but Jens Caspersen raised him or is at least attached to him in his military file.
I am trying working on the Jens Peter illegitimate birth. I have a problem with it because none of the witnesses/sponsors for Jens Peter's baptism are listed in Karen's children with Jens Caspersen. I would have expected at least one name to overlap.
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 06 Okt 2018 - 11:43
I think that Karen Jensdatter is a daughter of Jens Caspersen and Margrethe Christensdatter in Kattrup, bapt. May 30, 1790.
mvh Ole
Hi Ole. When I looked at the birth record for Karen Jensdatter I thought it referred to 1789?
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=165455#165455,27792666 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=165455#165455,27792666)
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 07 Okt 2018 - 00:15
The information in the levying roll 1789 for Kattrup parish regarding the birth place for Christen and Casper is wrong:
Thank you for all of the Levying Roll links Inger!
Citat
Maybe the Karen Jensdatter you are looking for: http://www.milloup.dk/bf/tolstrup/tolstrup-1803.htm
1809, fol 9a
Karen Jensdatters uægte barn af Eldrup - Rasmus (Søren Rasmussen af Rådved)
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127168#170590,28642701 - left page, Nov. 5
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Inger
This actually looks like more of a possibility than the Jens Peder birth up above.
So far, I have the following witnesses/sponsors for Karen Jensdatter's children:
Rasmus (Soren Rasmussen) illegitimate
30 Oct 1809 • Eldrup, Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Ane NielsD,
Sophie JensD (sister born 1793?), Andreas Mikkelsen, Soren Stephansen and Jens Hansen
Ane Margrethe Sorensdatter (Soren Baerntsen) Illegitimate
15 Jan 1815 • Eldrup, Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Ane JorgensD,
Sophie JensD (sister born 1793?), Christen Sorensen and Thomas Juelsen
Ane Sophie Sorensdatter
3 Apr 1818 • Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Ane Johanne ChristensD, Ane Magrethe ChristensD, Laurits Povelsen, Hans Peter Eliasen, Christian Frederick Pedersen
Johan Baernt Sorensen Hyld
3 Mar 1820 • Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses:
Soren Jensen's (her brother born 1783?) kone, Ane Marie MikkelsD, Ane NielsD, Therkild Pedersen, Christen Sorensen and Christen Baerntsen
Caroline Sorensdatter
25 Apr 1822 • Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Karen PedersD, Mette Kirstine PedersD, Christen Baerntsen, Peder Jacobsen and Christen Sorensen
Hans Jorgen Sorsensen Tolstrup
17 Aug 1824 • Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Ane Marie BertelsD, Trine PedersD, Laurs Nielsen, Peder Herfield? Pedersen and Soren Christensen
Kirstine Sorensdatter
5 Nov 1826 • Tolstrup, Voer, Skanderborg, Denmark
Witnesses: Ane ErnstsD, Ane Marie BertelsD, Laurs Nielsen, Haders? Jeppesen and Rasmus Sorensen
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 07 Okt 2018 - 01:25
Is she Margrethe Jensdatter, Sørensdatter, or Christensdatter?
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Inger
That is the question. I wish there was a way to confirm what her actual patronymic was. Based on the names of her sons it could be Sorensdatter or Christensdatter.
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 07 Okt 2018 - 15:53
Østbirk parish:
Marriage 1737: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027104 - right page, bottom
Baptism 1745: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172881,29026982 - No 10
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027143 - left page, middle
Burial 1749: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172881,29026990 - right page, top
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128748#172882,29027093 - right page, middle
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Stillbirth 1779 in Nim: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17125352#166964,28035341 - right page, No 8
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Inger
Thank you Inger! I think you are amazing at how quickly you find information that would take me days.
If I knew what Magrethe's patronymic was I could decide if I think that stillborn son belonged to her. I am just not sure.
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 07 Okt 2018 - 01:25
Unfortunately, the name of the mother is not mentioned. Is she Margrethe Jensdatter, Sørensdatter, or Christensdatter?
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Inger
The more I look at the records I think she must have been Magrethe Christensdatter. Her first son, her illegitimate son, she names Christen (father Soren Tangaard).
Her first son that she has with Jens Caspersen is Casper and her second son with Jens is named Soren (which may be in memory of Soren Tangaard if he died by the time Soren Jensen was born).
On the 1801 Census she is Magrethe Christensdatter.
The sponsor at Karen Jensdatter's wedding 1816, Christen Sørensen, Huusmand af Eldrup, must be her half-brother.
You've also found him as a witness at baptisms of Karen's children.
Her brother Søren Jensen died 19 Jan. 1861: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127172#170593,28643408 - No 1
- born in Borup. Father: tenant Jens Caspersen in Borup.
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Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 20 Okt 2018 - 00:40
The sponsor at Karen Jensdatter's wedding 1816, Christen Sørensen, Huusmand af Eldrup, must be her half-brother.
You've also found him as a witness at baptisms of Karen's children.
Her brother Søren Jensen died 19 Jan. 1861: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17127172#170593,28643408 - No 1
- born in Borup. Father: tenant Jens Caspersen in Borup.
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Inger
Thank you so much Inger! I think Christen Sorensen in the illegitimate child mentioned throughout the thread and Karen Jensdatter's half brother.
Rebecca. I am new in this forum but have come across this thread. Søren Bernthsen Hyld is my direct ancestor in 6 generation through his daughter Ane Sophie Dorthea Sørensdatter. Are you directly related with him also - and if so how? /Henrik Andersen