Can someone please help me to find out what happened to Erik Christian Olsen?
Erik is the youngest child of Morten Olsen and Annie Marie Pedersdatter.
Erik was born on 18 January 1803 and was christened on 17 March 1803 in Rudkøbing per
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=180946#180946,30724259 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=180946#180946,30724259)
Erik was confirmed in 1817 in Rudkøbing per https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGDN-Q192?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=LY57-8V1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGDN-Q192?from=lynx1UIV8&treeref=LY57-8V1)
Can someone please help me to find out whether Erik ever married and when he died?
Hello Hansine!
I found a census from Marstal Ærø Svendborg amt.
Census 1835 Marstal Ærø Svendborg amt
Erik Christian Olsen has the right age.
https://www.ddd.dda.dk/asp/alle_opl.asp
Erik Christian Olsen was not the father to the boy Peter Christian Olsen
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17137995#180136,30548284
Kind regards
Ingrid
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Navn: Erik Christian Olsen Køn: M
Alder: 32 Civilstand: U
Kildehenvisning: Hovedliste
Kommentarer: AO-opslag 33 - Husstandsnr. i forlægget: S-213 - Fra AOopslag 32 højre del til 35 venstre del står data ikke efter fam.lbnr.. i indtastningen er dette rettet Kildekommentarer: - hendes Forlovede
Kilde: FT-1835 Husstands-/familienr: 430
Sogn: Marstal Flække Herred: Ærø
Amt: Svendborg Stednavn: Marstals søndre Distrikt
Indtastningsnr: D9499 Løbenr.: 1996
Samtlige personer i husstanden
Svendborg, Ærø, Marstal Flække, Marstals søndre Distrikt, , 430, FT-1835, D9499
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Dorthe Nissen 40 U
Peder Christian Olsen 2 U
Erik Christian Olsen 32 U
This may be better
And link nr 2 is not the right one
I don´t understand, sorry
Ingrid
Link nr 2 was the right one.
Ingrid
Ved dåb Ingrid, så han er da far til ham
Hej!
Det er linket her under jeg fandt, og fik kludret med, men her er der angivet en anden far
Vh Ingrid
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17137995#180136,30548284
Møllersvend Erik Christian Olsen is the father of Peter Christian Olsen, born 20 aug. 1832 (see Remarks).
He married Dorothea Helena Bai Nissen 22 Mar. 1835:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17129102#174288,29317373 - left page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21975918#440595,79749583 - No 10
Svendborg, Ærø, Marstal Handelsplads, , Markgade, hus 138, 179, FT 1840, A7043
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Dorthea Helene Nissen 47 enke ern. sig v. håndarb. og almisse
Peter Christian Olsen 8 ugift søn, uægte
Svendborg, Ærø, Marstal Handelsplads, Flekken Marstal, Markgaden, 149 F1, FT-1845, B7126
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Dorthea Nissen 50 Gift faaer hjelp af sin familie i Fyen, samt af fattigkassen Nielskov i Lolland
Peter Christian Olsen 12 Ugift hendes søn Marstal
Svendborg, Langelands Nørre, Rudkøbing Købstad, Rue, No. 260, 113, FT-1850, D2991
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Dorthe Helene Bay f. Nissen 58 Fraskilt* lever af Syning og hvad Sønnen hengiver Hende Nakskov *) divorced
Peter Christian Olsen 18 Ugift farer til Søes Marstal paa Ærøe
Svendborg, Langelands Nørre, Rudkøbing Købstad, Rudkjøbing, Møllermarken 418, forhuus, 1 F2, FT-1860, B0490
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Dorthea Helene Bay født Nissen 66 Gift lever i huset, er under fattigvæsenet Nakskov
Dorthea Helene Olsen, née Boye, died 9 Sept. in Rudkøbing:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17129150#174321,29321773 - left page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21256218#334056,67273097 - No 11
- age 96 years must be wrong. Should probably be 76 years.
Venlig hilsen
Inger Toudal
Nej, det er også den, jeg fandt. Hun er datter af en Nissen. Helt ude til højre står det, jeg har sat ind.
Ja nu går der da rent kludder i det. I folketællingen 1835 passer alderen på
Erik Christian Olsen. Damen hedder Nissen.
Barnet hedder godt nok Olsen til efternavn.
hvordan skal jeg så forstå link nr 2
Ingrid
Prøv at se på hans dåb igen. Det er ude i højre side, at der står, hvem der er fader.
Odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kiøbstad, Westergade no 265, , FT-1850, B5984
Navn: Alder: Status: Stilling i familien: Erhverv: Fødested:
Rasmus Pedersen 44 Gift garver. mølleejer. huusfader Steenløse
Maria fød Jensen 29 Gift hans kone Odense
Peder Pedersen 9 Ugift deres børn do [Odense]
Laura Pedersen 7 Ugift deres børn do [Odense]
Emma Pedersen 4 Ugift deres børn do [Odense]
Laurits Christensen 29 Ugift møllersvend Lunde
Peder Hansen 28 Ugift do [møllersvend] Holsteen
Jens Simonsen 25 Ugift do [møllersvend] Orte
Jacob Simonsen 29 Ugift do [møllersvend] Orte
Jens Andersen 30 Ugift do [møllersvend] Høyrup
Hans Frederichsen 34 Ugift do [møllersvend] Egeskov
Erich Olsen 50 Ugift do [møllersvend] Langeland
Carl Bjerregaard 19 Ugift lærling Vejle
Hans Johansen 38 Ugift tjenestefolk Verninge
Rasmus Sørensen 23 Ugift tjenestefolk Stegsted
Ane Nielsen 27 Ugift tjenestefolk Hjallese
Hanne Hansen 30 Ugift tjenestefolk Stegsted
Barnekow 44 Ugift ritmester. fraværende -
Citat fra: Inger Toudal Dato 24 Jan 2022 - 14:05
Dorthea Helene Olsen, née Boye, died 9 Sept. in Rudkøbing:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17129150#174321,29321773 - left page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21256218#334056,67273097 - No 11
- age 96 years must be wrong. Should probably be 76 years.
Should be
9 Sep. 1871.
Møllerkarl Erik Olsen died 11 Mar. 1875 in Rudkøbing:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17129150#174321,29321778 - left page
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21835632#419943,77143336 - No 7
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21256218#334056,67273053 - No 7
- age 70 or 75 years?
!845 Census, Copenhagen: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid6062839
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Slave 'convict, prisoner'
Could perhaps be:
Svendborg, Langelands Nørre,
Rudkøbing Købstad, Rudkjøbing, Viinkeldergaden 139, 1,
FT-1860, B0490
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation: Birthplace:
Hans Peter Petersen 34 Gift vershuusholder Svendborg
Hanne Marie 45 Gift hustru Rudkjøbing
Peder Clausen 15 Ugift søn ditto [Rudkjøbing]
Marie Clausen 11 Ugift datter ditto [Rudkjøbing]
Erik Clausen 9 Ugift søn ditto [Rudkjøbing]
Ane Rasmussen 79 Enke(mand) - Tranekjær
Erik Møller Olsen 59 Fraskilt tjenestekarl Rudkjøbing Emilie Petersen 18 Ugift tjenestepige ditto [Rudkjøbing]
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Jeg var for lang tid om at komme helt ud til højre, Gitte.
Ingrid
Det sker for os alle, Ingrid ;)
Erik Christian Olsen in Horsens Tugthus (prison) from 1852 to 1857:
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1431/source167634/opslag19765655
- 50 years old, born in Rudkøbing, Møllersvend
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Wow! Thank you all for your help.
Can I please ask a few questions to clarify:
1. What is a Møllersvend? I cannot seem to translate that occupation to English.
2. Did Erik and Dorthea have the child Peter Christian Olsen, then get married, and Peter was still called "illegitimate" because they were not married at the time of his birth?
3. Was Dorthea previously married to someone else, as she seems to have two surnames of Boye and Nissen?
4. Do the prison records say why Erik was sent to prison?
Hello Hansine from Ingrid.
I made a mistake, when I read/wrote that Erik Christian Olsen was not father to the boy.
1. Møllersvend ---- miller turner. Make corn to flour.
2. When a child is born illegitime, it cannot be changed to legitime.
3. Perhaps, we can find out.
4. it also will be possible to find out more about that.
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1. møller 'miller' - svend 'journeyman'
2. Peter Christian was born out of wedlock. If his parents had married before his baptism, he might have been considered legitimate.
3. According to the 1835 Census for Marstal, Dorthe Helene Nissen was unmarried: https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid17802753
4. Horsens Tugthus book 1852: 5 years for complicity in nocturnal burglary. Previous convictions: 7 years for burglary.
- Straffearbeide i Tugthuset paa 5 Aar.
- Forbrydelsen hvorfor Fangen er inddømt: Deelagtighed i natligt Indbrud.
- Tidligere straffet: for Indbr.tyverie med 7 Aars Fæstningsarbeide.
Peter Christian Olsen, born 20 aug. 1832:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21975918#440584,79749292 - No 31
- An illegitimate child of Dorthe Helene Nissen, daughter of deceased skipper Peder Nissen in Sønderborg.
- Remarks: illegitimate. Alleged father journeyman miller Erik Christian Olsen at Marstal Mill.
His confirmation 30 Apr. 1848 in Rudkøbing:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21835632#419937,77142966 - No 14
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Inger
Could be the father of Dorthe(a) Helene:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=18484678#237224,45134061 - No 220
- Peter Nissen died 16 Jul. 1808. His parents were Christian Nissen and Anna Boysen.
Sønderborg, Nybøl, Dybbøl, Kirchspiel Düppel beÿ Sönderburg, , 2, FT-1803, C2563
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Peter Nissen 39 Gift Hausvater Schuster
Anna Maria Degn 47 Gift Dessen Frau "-"
Hans Peter Nissen 14 Ugift ihre Kinder "-"
Dorothea Helena Nissen 8 Ugift ihre Kinder "-"
Jürgen Friedrich Nissen 3 Ugift ihre Kinder "-"
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Inger
From family search https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB9V-3YJ
Erik Christian Olsen and Dorthe had a daughter in August 1835
Can L in Leah be a B
But a name from an other man her mother could have been married with ???????
My answer is no.
From archivalieronline Marstal Svendborg amt https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17137995#180137,30548570
venlig hilsen Ingrid
Now I am wrong It is the mothers name Sorry
Daughter Anne Marie Olsen, born 5 Aug. and baptized at home 6 Aug., died 10 Aug. 1835:
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21975918#440599,79749713 - No 26
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22019530#451721,80985367 - No 26
- parents: Erich Christian Olsen, day-labourer, and wife Dorothea Helene Bai (or Bay) Nissen
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Inger