In looking at the translations in my recent post about Jens Olsen I am second-guessing the parents that I have for Peder Jensen.
This is what I know about Peder Jensen (my 4th great-grandfather):
He died 3 Nov 1860 age 77 in Gryderup, Boeslunde, Slagelse, Sorø, Denmark here bottom entry: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=148462#148462,24534191 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=148462#148462,24534191)
On the 1834-1860 Census he is living at Gryderup, Boeslunde, Slagelse, Soro, Denmark. He states on the Census records that he was born in Hemmeshøj, Slagelse, Sorø, Denmark.
Year: FT-1834 Source reference: 49
Cadastre/Address: en Gaard
Household No: 23
Name: Peder Jensen Gender: M
Age: 50 Civil status: Gift
Occupation: Gaardmand
Parish: Boeslunde District: Slagelse
Shire: Sorø Place name: Gryderup Bye
Source entry No: C7200 Record No.: 901
Peder Jensen 50 Gift Gaardmand
Birthe Rasmusdatter 43 Gift hans Kone
Hemming Pedersen 16 Ugift deres Barn
Birthe Pedersdatter 12 Ugift deres Barn
Maria Pedersdatter 9 Ugift deres Barn
Johanne Pedersdatter 6 Ugift deres Barn
He married Birthe Ramusdatter 11 Nov 1814 here 3rd entry on the left #1115: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552116 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552116)
They had 5 children. 4 are noted in the 1834 Census and daughter Ane Pedersdatter, born 25 Nov 1820 in Boeslunde.
What I am realising is that I think I chose the wrong Jens Olsen as his father. In the other post, Ole points out that there were 4 Jens Olsen's living in Hemmeshoj. At first, I thought Peder Jensen's parents were Jens Olsen who married thirdly to Karen Olsdatter (see other post about Jens Olsen).
But the more I look at the Boeslunde marriage entry for Peder Jensen I am starting to think that Peder Jensen's parents were not Jens Olsen and his 3rd marriage to Karen Olsdatter but it looks like Jens Olsen (son of Ole Diderichson) and Anne Pedersdatter (daughter of Peder Nielsen) which means Ole had the right 1797 Census record as follows:
Must be him here in 1787
Sorø, Slagelse, Hemmeshøj, Erdrup Bye, Hemmeshøj, 46, FT-1787, C5283
Jens Olsen 26 Gift Hosbond Gaardbeboer
Ane Peersdatter 32 Gift Madmoder
Peer Jensen 3 Ugift [deres Børn]
Kisten Jensdatter 1 Ugift [deres Børn]
Nels Rasmusen 27 Ugift [Tienestefolk] Landsoldat
Birte Hansdatter 23 Ugift [Tienestefolk]
I find the family again in the 1801 Census:
Jens Olsen 40 Gift huusbonde bonde og gaardbeboer
Ane Pedersdatter 44 Gift hans kone
Peder Jensen 17 Ugift deres børn
Kirsten Jensdatter 15 - deres børn
Johanne Jensdatter 9 - deres børn
Ane Jensdatter 7 - deres børn
Jens Pedersen 19 Ugift tjenestekarl
Does it make sense that Peder Jensen's parents are Jens Olsen and Ane Pedersdatter?
Hey Rebecca
I think you are right. the father to peder jensen is Ole Didrichsen and Ane pedersdatter.
But it is not the marriage it is also the baptism of Peder 25 april 1784. And there are not others born it that year in this churchbook. o
On "opslag 14" under no. 192 you'll find Birthe Rasmusdatters baptism 20 november 1791, the last on the left page.
also it is written, that she married Peder Jensen Ols son. nr. 1115
https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552058
mvh
Grethe
Thank you so much Grethe. That is what I was also thinking. Everything matches to my Peder Jensen being the son of Jens Olsen and Ane Pedersdatter.
Rebecca
Here's the proof that you have the right father Jens Olsen in Erdrup:
Levying rolls (I didn't start from the beginning ca 10 years earlier)
1803 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17308,746350
10 - 6 Father: Jens Olsen - Peder - born in Erdrup - 17 - 64¾" - in Erdrup
Soldier 1806 K.R. (Kronens Regiment)
1806 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17317,749367
6 - 4 Peder - nothing new
1809 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17329,752509 right
4 - 4 Peder - now at the regiment
1812 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17339,755026 right
4 - 3 Peder - now at home - and Soldier 1815 Kron. (Reg.) 3/3 unmarried
which means that he is attached the regiment, but at home
and he moves to 83 A406 (Lægd 83 (Boeslunde) with no A406) (search a roll with the letter A)
1816 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17354,758007 down left
A406 - 341 Peder - now in Gryderup - from 58-3
1815 Soldier Kronens Reg. 3/3 - finished service, unmarried
Left: Farmer proved at the sess.1816
1819 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17365,760378 left
341 - 283 Peder - in Gryderup - finished as infanterist etc.
And by the way Jens Olsen in Erdrup dies Oct.20, 1827 - age 67
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8944-6NX5?i=157&cc=2078555 nr 14
mvh Ole
Re: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552116 - No 1115
- it's an alphabetical index of the inhabitants of Boeslunde parish, made in the years 1822 -1829, covering the period 1731-1829:
https://www.sa.dk/daisy/arkivserie_detaljer?a=boeslunde+sogn+&b=&c=&d=1&e=2018&f=&g=&h=&ngid=3045600&ngnid=3045603&heid=1554958&henid=1554958&epid=&faid=&meid=&m2rid=&side=&sort=&dir=&gsc=&int=&ep=&es=&ed=
The info about Peder:
Name: Peder, son of Jens, Ole Didriksøn' son, and 1st wife: Anna, Peder Nielsøn's daughter
- moved out: farmer in Gryderup
Birth, year and place: 1784, 24 Apr. Erdrup, Hemmeshøj
Remarks: confirmed Hemmeshøj 1800, married 1st time 11 Nov. 1814, to No 192
His confirmation: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17115856#151263,25125793 - right page, No 6
- Peder Jensen, ibidem [= Erdrup] Age: 16
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
You probably have these censuses for his wife:
Sorø, Slagelse, Boeslunde, Gryderop, , 5, FT-1801, C1184
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Rasmus Peder Jürgensøn 56 Gift huusbonde selveier gaardbeboer
Karen Andreas Hansøn 54 Gift hans koene
Maren Rasmus Pedersøn 17 Ugift deres barn
Birthe Rasmus Pedersøn 10 Ugift deres barn
Peder Niels Jensøn 20 Ugift tieneste folk
Hans Niels Jensen 17 Ugift tieneste folk
Sorø, Slagelse, Boeslunde, Boeslunde, Gryderop, , FT-1787, C5287
Name: Age: Marital status: Position in household: Occupation:
Rasmus Pedersen 42 Gift Hosbond Bonde og Gaardbeboer
Caren Andresdatter 39 Gift Madmoder
Maren Rasmusdatter 3 Ugift Datter af første ægteskab
Friderich Hansen 21 Ugift [Tieneste Folk] National Soldat
Maren Hansdatter 16 Ugift [Tieneste Folk]
Jørgen Rasmussen 13 Ugift [Tieneste Folk]
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Inger Toudal
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 16 Okt 2018 - 16:13
Rebecca
Here's the proof that you have the right father Jens Olsen in Erdrup:
Levying rolls (I didn't start from the beginning ca 10 years earlier)
1803 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17308,746350
10 - 6 Father: Jens Olsen - Peder - born in Erdrup - 17 - 64¾" - in Erdrup
Soldier 1806 K.R. (Kronens Regiment)
1806 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17317,749367
6 - 4 Peder - nothing new
1809 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17329,752509 right
4 - 4 Peder - now at the regiment
1812 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17339,755026 right
4 - 3 Peder - now at home - and Soldier 1815 Kron. (Reg.) 3/3 unmarried
which means that he is attached the regiment, but at home
and he moves to 83 A406 (Lægd 83 (Boeslunde) with no A406) (search a roll with the letter A)
1816 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17354,758007 down left
A406 - 341 Peder - now in Gryderup - from 58-3
1815 Soldier Kronens Reg. 3/3 - finished service, unmarried
Left: Farmer proved at the sess.1816
1819 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17365,760378 left
341 - 283 Peder - in Gryderup - finished as infanterist etc.
And by the way Jens Olsen in Erdrup dies Oct.20, 1827 - age 67
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-8944-6NX5?i=157&cc=2078555 nr 14
mvh Ole
Ole, thank you, thank you, thank you! I have such a hard time with the levying rolls for some reason. I just have not been able to get the hang of researching the pages without spending hours and hours.
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 16 Okt 2018 - 18:40
Re: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552116 - No 1115
- it's an alphabetical index of the inhabitants of Boeslunde parish, made in the years 1822 -1829, covering the period 1731-1829:
https://www.sa.dk/daisy/arkivserie_detaljer?a=boeslunde+sogn+&b=&c=&d=1&e=2018&f=&g=&h=&ngid=3045600&ngnid=3045603&heid=1554958&henid=1554958&epid=&faid=&meid=&m2rid=&side=&sort=&dir=&gsc=&int=&ep=&es=&ed=
The info about Peder:
Name: Peder, son of Jens, Ole Didriksøn' son, and 1st wife: Anna, Peder Nielsøn's daughter
- moved out: farmer in Gryderup
Birth, year and place: 1784, 24 Apr. Erdrup, Hemmeshøj
Remarks: confirmed Hemmeshøj 1800, married 1st time 11 Nov. 1814, to No 192
His confirmation: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17115856#151263,25125793 - right page, No 6
- Peder Jensen, ibidem [= Erdrup] Age: 16
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Inger Toudal
Inger! Thank you for all the links!
ETA: I logged into Daisy but I cannot seem to get the alphabetical list to work?
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 16 Okt 2018 - 16:13
1816 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17354,758007 down left
A406 - 341 Peder - now in Gryderup - from 58-3
1815 Soldier Kronens Reg. 3/3 - finished service, unmarried
Left: Farmer proved at the sess.1816
mvh Ole
Ole, I wonder why he is unmarried in 1816 when I know he married Birthe Rasmusdatter 11 Nov 1814 in Boeslunde?
Bottom left #192 Birthe Rasmusdatter: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552058 (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?bsid=203270#203270,38552058)
The correct year of the roll is 1815, so probably the superintendent hadn't got the info about his marriage.
I followed him in the rolls until
1830 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17435,783477 top left
162-128 He is finally dismissed at the session 1831
Ole
Citat fra: Rebecca Johnson [32640] Dato 18 Okt 2018 - 05:46
ETA: I logged into Daisy but I cannot seem to get the alphabetical list to work?
It's the same book that you've found under church records: Kontraministerialbog 1731 - 1829.
For some reason, you cannot access the alphabetical index via Daisy.
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Inger
Citat fra: Ole Westermann [1234] Dato 18 Okt 2018 - 10:56
The correct year of the roll is 1815, so probably the superintendent hadn't got the info about his marriage.
I followed him in the rolls until
1830 https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17435,783477 top left
162-128 He is finally dismissed at the session 1831
Ole
Thank you Ole. That explains it.
Citat fra: Inger Toudal [1655] Dato 19 Okt 2018 - 00:59
Citat fra: Rebecca Johnson [32640] Dato 18 Okt 2018 - 05:46
ETA: I logged into Daisy but I cannot seem to get the alphabetical list to work?
It's the same book that you've found under church records: Kontraministerialbog 1731 - 1829.
For some reason, you cannot access the alphabetical index via Daisy.
Venlig hilsen
Inger
Oh, okay, that makes sense.