Frederik Severin Bak og passager i skibet Hekla

Startet af Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla, 19 Apr 2015 - 16:27

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Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

Frederik Severin Bachs birth on Oct. 10, 1852 is found in AO from 1837-1853 ... Thisted Amt, Hundborg Herred, Thisted Sogn ... opslag 112 nummer 52.

Frederik was baptised in church on Oct 17, 1852.  His parents were husmand Niels Bach and his wife Ane Frederiksdatter, aged 33, both from (Faartoft is crossed out as explained in the record) Thisted Mark.  The witnesses, sponsors, etc. were Niels Faartofts wife, Jens Diges? wife, Christen Bach, Christen Olsen and single man Christen Jensen.  A police inquiry of ? 19 November it was found that the parents? do not live in Faartoft but iin Thisted Mark.

His confirmation from 1867 is found in AO from 1854-1869 ... Thisted Amt, Hundborg Herred, Thisted Sogn ... opslag 374 nummer 29.  Here his name is given as Bak.

Thisted, Hundborg, Thisted Købstad, Skovgade, Huus nr. 81, Forhuus, 164, FT-1870, C9281
Carl Ditlev Andreas Carstens 33 Gift Husfader Gartner Cappeln, Slesvig
Ane Marie Elise Carstens 28 Gift Husmoder Flensborg
Emil Julius Carstens 2 Ugift Barn Thisted
Alberthine Josephine Margrethe Carstens 20 Ugift Søster Cappeln, Slesvig
Else Kirstine Nielsen 24 Ugift-Tjenestepige Gjærup, Thisted
Frederik Severin Bak 17 Ugift-Lærling Thisted
Poul Jensen Steensgaard 18 Ugift-Lærling Hundborg, Thisted


He left Denmark for Atlantic, Iowa in the U.S.A. in 1887 as known from the Danish archives ... Udvandrede Database ... a list of those leaving Denmark:

Navn (Name):  Bach, Frederik  Stilling(Job, Occupation):  Arbejder  (worker) Alder  (age):  34
Bestemmelsessted  (where headed):  Atlantic, Ia.
Kontrakt nr (contract number).:  330400
Forevisningsdato (the day the ticket or contract was presented for police approval for emmigration):  9/10/1887
Fødested (where born):  ?  Fødesogn  (parish of birth):  ?
Sidste oph.sogn (what parish was the last place of residence):  Ringkøbing  Sidste oph. amt (what county last lived in):  Ringkøbing  Sidste oph.sted (what town, village, city in the county, parish last live in:  Ringkjøbing.
Bestemmelses land (what country going to):  USA
Bestemmelses by (what city, town going to):  Atlantic
Bestemmelses stat (what state going to):  Iowa
Skibsnavn (ship name):  Hekla
IDkode (identication code given by police in Copenhagen on approval of ticket, contract for immigrant):  D8789B0110

Jeg har en list som jeg vedhæfter af skibet Heklas passagerne men kan ikke læse navnet nedenfor Frederik Baks. Er det hans kone (står der wife?)?

Med venlig hilsen,
Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

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Eva Morfiadakis

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I read the name as no first name but Hagensen last name and miss. No age. Miss Hagensen. Could she be travelling with Maren Monrad? 1st cabin. Her maid?

He travelled alone on his ticket.

Eva M
Eva M

Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

Thank you Eva.

But how do you connect Maren Monrad 1st cabin with this name Hagensen, and how do you know he traveled alone on his ticket? 

Birgit

Eva Morfiadakis



Birgit,

This miss Hagensen? without first name has 1st cabin below is Maren Monrad whose cabin is marked ". Funny rnough this miss has no luggage. It was just a guess.

If you type the ticket number 300400 in the database and the date of approval and USA you only get Frederik's name.

Eva M
Eva M

Verner Bentsen

This could be Maren Olsen (no 342) , above Frederik Bach. Are they relatives ? Maren no baggage, Henrik 2.

Navn: Olsen, Maren
Stilling: Jomfru
Alder: 18
Bestemmelsessted: Atlantik, Ja.
Kontrakt nr.: 330500
Forevisningsdato: 9/10/1887
Fødested: ?
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: Ringkøbing
Sidste oph. amt: Ringkøbing
Sidste oph.sted: Ringkjøb.
Bestemmelses land: USA
Bestemmelses by: Atlantic
Bestemmelses stat: Iowa
Skibsnavn: Hekla
IDkode: D8789O0113

On the attached photo there's also a Karen Monrad no 910, still Hekla arrival 1. Oct 1887. The same as no 345 ?
And here is a Norwegian link:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000001016592

Verner

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Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

Tak Eva og Verner for tid og hjælp.

I have no records to show any relationship.

It seems that there is no trace of Frederik Severin Bak after he leaves Denmark on the Hekla. 

Med venlig hilsen
Birgit

Eva Morfiadakis



His name in the passenger manifest has been interpreted as Frederik Bach on FS so maybe you should look for Bach, Buck, Bock. Frederik may have been shortened to Fred.

Eva M
Eva M

Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

I have searched the options you mentioned, but still no trace ... maybe he was abducted by aliens! ;D

Tak igen,
Birgit

Verner Bentsen

Is this your Frederik ?

FT 1880 Viborg:
Navn: Frederik Severin Bak   Køn: M   Alder: 25   Civilstand: Ugift
Fødested: Thisted Mark, Thisted A.
Kilde: FT-1880  Amt: Viborg   Herred: Nørlyng   Sogn: Viborg Købstad   Stednavn: Viborg Købstad
Matr.nr/adresse: Nygade 2, matr. nr. 352a og b, Sindssygeanstalten   Husstands-/familienr: 83-F5   Indtastningsnr: D3786   Løbenr.: 1312
Kommentarer: Bemærkninger: do. [Fødestedet]

Can't find Nygade in FT 1890. Maybe someone else can.

Verner

Verner Bentsen

Frederik never went to the US

Frederik dead:  AO Viborg, Nørlyng, Viborg Sortebrødre, 1914-1925D opslag 87

Verner

see attached.

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Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

Thank you Verner ... you are quite a detective! 

Med venlig hilsen,
Birgit

From what I have about Frederik Severin Baks birth, confirmation and FT 1870 Thisted, I am almost sure that the Frederik Severin Bak in the FT Viborg 1880 and in the church record AO Viborg, Nørlyng, Viborg Sortebrødre, 1914-1925D opslag 87 is the same Frederik Severin Bak I have been looking for. 

In the FT 1870 he is a lærling ... Frederik Severin Bak 17 Ugift-Lærling Thisted ... maybe he was a lærling som tobakshandler? That would agree with the church record of his death.

He was my great-grandmother, Ane Nielsen Bak's (married to my great-grandfather, Lars Kristian Pedersen Hulgaard) brother.  One brother, Peder Tøfting Nielsen Bach and his wife Kirsten Marie Nielsen (father Niels Christensen Jespersen from Tilsted and his wife Ane Marie Larsen) did go to the U.S.A. to Worchester, Massachusetts with his 8 children in 1896.

Frederik Severin Bachs birth on Oct. 10, 1852 is found in AO from 1837-1853 ... Thisted Amt, Hundborg Herred, Thisted Sogn ... opslag 112 nummer 52.

Frederik was baptised in church on Oct 17, 1852.  His parents were husmand Niels Bach and his wife Ane Frederiksdatter, aged 33, both from (Faartoft is crossed out as explained in the record) Thisted Mark.  The witnesses, sponsors, etc. were Niels Faartofts wife, Jens Diges? wife, Christen Bach, Christen Olsen and single man Christen Jensen.  A police inquiry of ? 19 November it was found that the parents? do not live in Faartoft but iin Thisted Mark.

His confirmation from 1867 is found in AO from 1854-1869 ... Thisted Amt, Hundborg Herred, Thisted Sogn ... opslag 374 nummer 29.  Here his name is given as Bak.

Thisted, Hundborg, Thisted Købstad, Skovgade, Huus nr. 81, Forhuus, 164, FT-1870, C9281
Carl Ditlev Andreas Carstens 33 Gift Husfader Gartner Cappeln, Slesvig
Ane Marie Elise Carstens 28 Gift Husmoder Flensborg
Emil Julius Carstens 2 Ugift Barn Thisted
Alberthine Josephine Margrethe Carstens 20 Ugift Søster Cappeln, Slesvig
Else Kirstine Nielsen 24 Ugift-Tjenestepige Gjærup, Thisted
Frederik Severin Bak 17 Ugift-Lærling Thisted
Poul Jensen Steensgaard 18 Ugift-Lærling Hundborg, Thisted

Verner Bentsen

I haven't found Frederik in FT 1890. Can anybody help ?
Sometimes the address is Nørregade or Riddergade.

Here is a link to FT 1901, Riddergade https://www4.sa.dk/ao/billedviser?bsid=25419#25419,2876093 opslag 21.
He came to the hospital in 1877.

Verner

Birgit Mariane Hulgaard Cancilla

Thank you again Verner for all your time and help. 

Med venlig hilsen,
Birgit