Need help locating birth record for Hans Peder Hansen

[Inger Toudal]

Jakob, f. 4/9 1805 (107)

https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167960,28206873 - left page, bottom

- Peder Gotsche Højer and Mette Marie Jensdatter's son Jacob Højer, born 4 Sep. 1805
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Dødf. søn, begr. 18/8 1801 (14)

https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167964,28207215 - left page, No 12

- Peder Godsk Hoyer's stillborn son, buried 18 Aug. 1801
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Jakob, begr. 5/3 1805, 2 år 4 m. (17)

https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167964,28207216 - right page, No 3

- Baker Godske Hoyer's son Jacob 2 years 4 months, buried 5 Mar. 1805
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The index to Ribe city churchbooks only lists persons over the age of 14 years:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17148249#188601,31878537
 

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Ah, okay, so they had a son Jakob born around Dec 1802 as well as 1805.  That makes sense.

Thanks Inger.

Also, thank you for finding the probate documents.  I was able to trace the family back to around 1654 with those.

He was born 9 Dec 1802, baptised 21 Jan 1803, here: https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167960,28206866

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Does anyone know the significance of (1776) beside Mette Kirstine Andersdatter from this Nygaards page?  I know it is not her death because she is on the 1787 Census and she likely married around 1764 when her first child was born.  I thought perhaps their first child was illegitimate but it does not seem so however there is no mother mentioned in the birth record either (that I can see).

https://ddd.dda.dk/nygaard/visning_billed.asp?id=129762&sort=e

Birth Mette Marie Jensdatter 21 Oct 1765 here bottom left: https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167958,28206659

[Inger Toudal]

Maybe it's a mistake?

Watchmaker Jens Hansen and Mette Kirstine Andersdatter married 22 Nov. 1764:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167952,28205954 - left page, No 12
 

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Maybe it's a mistake?

Watchmaker Jens Hansen and Mette Kirstine Andersdatter married 22 Nov. 1764:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167952,28205954 - left page, No 12
 

Yeah, that is what I thought.  A transposition error.

Are the witnesses Søren ?? and David Roy?

[Inger Toudal]

(Sogne Præsten David Fog)

The sponsors are Christian Therkelsen(?) and Anders Christensen(?) Krejberg.

The latter could be the bride's father.

https://www.brejl.dk/ribe.html

1182 Klage over ikke afholdt skifte i Ribe. 8.6.1776, fol.93B.
nemlig:
Terkild Andersen, der døde i Ribe 17.11.1773
Anders Andersen, der døde i Ribe 1.5.1776. A:
1) søster Karen*) Andersdatter, enke efter Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe, nu hos sin svigersøn
Jens Hansen, urmager g.m. Mette Kirstine Andersdatter
2) bror Christen Andersen, [skifte 11.3.1743 lbnr.825]. 2B:
a Karen Christensdatter i Nørre Farup
b Niels Christensen i Astrup i Brøns sogn.
Begge de afdøde brødre boede i Øster Vedsted i Ribe Domkirkes sogn indtil de fik fledføringskontrakt
med Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe i 1770.

- maybe an error for Maren  - see Census 1787

Index to Ribe city churchbooks:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17148249#188601,31878665 - left page: Kreyberg

- Anders died 1772, and Maren 1789.
 

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

On the same Nygaards page there is a birth that is not listed and I am sure the child died.

Birth Karen Jensdatter 6 Jul 1770 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (she is listed on Nygaards):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167958,28206673

Another Karen is born:
Birth Karen Jensdatter 8 Aug 1783 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (she is not listed and is also on the 1787 Census):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167960,28206799

I am wondering if the crossed out information has any relevance to the death of the first Karen?

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

(Sogne Præsten David Fog)

The sponsors are Christian Therkelsen(?) and Anders Christensen(?) Krejberg.

The latter could be the bride's father.
 

Yes, I agree since Jens Hansen, watchmaker, and Mette Kirstine Andersdatter had a son named Anders Krejberg Jensen.

Birth Anders Krejberg Jensen 1 Mar 1776 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167960,28206774

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Okay, I found a death record for Karen #1.  She died 11 Nov 1772.

Death Karen Jensdatter 11 Nov 1772 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167953,28206042

No idea what those crossed out names and dates meant.

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

https://www.brejl.dk/ribe.html

1182 Klage over ikke afholdt skifte i Ribe. 8.6.1776, fol.93B.
nemlig:
Terkild Andersen, der døde i Ribe 17.11.1773
Anders Andersen, der døde i Ribe 1.5.1776. A:
1) søster Karen*) Andersdatter, enke efter Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe, nu hos sin svigersøn
Jens Hansen, urmager g.m. Mette Kirstine Andersdatter
2) bror Christen Andersen, [skifte 11.3.1743 lbnr.825]. 2B:
a Karen Christensdatter i Nørre Farup
b Niels Christensen i Astrup i Brøns sogn.
Begge de afdøde brødre boede i Øster Vedsted i Ribe Domkirkes sogn indtil de fik fledføringskontrakt
med Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe i 1770.

- maybe an error for Maren  - see Census 1787

Index to Ribe city churchbooks:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17148249#188601,31878665 - left page: Kreyberg

- Anders died 1772, and Maren 1789.
 

I am not sure Karen was a mistake.  But, I only base this on the names of the children of Hans Jensen, watchmaker, and Mette Kirstine Andersdatter.  None of the daughters were named Maren but two were named Karen.  Also, although I have an apparent death date for Maren/Karen Andersdatter of 14 Nov 1789, I could not locate it in Ribe Sankt Katherines to confirm her name.

Mette Marie
Kirstine
Kirstine
Karen
Hans
Anders Krejberg
Anna Marie
Søren Evaldt
Karen
Anna Kirstine

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

In this probate record for the brother of Maren/Karen, Christen Andersen, it seems her mother was also Karen.

825 Christen Andersen i Ribe. 11.3.1743, fl.19B.
E: Dorthe Nielsdatter. LV: svoger Lauge Nielsen i Kærbøl. B:
1) Karen Christensdatter 11
2) Niels Christensen 5.
Arv i boet efter afdødes forældre Anders Terkildsen og Karen Andersdatter i Øster Vedsted til:
1 afdødes bror Terkild Andersen i Øster Vedsted
2 afdødes bror Anders Andersen i Øster Vedsted
3 afdødes svoger Anders (Christensen) Krejbjerg i Ribe.

[Inger Toudal]

https://www.brejl.dk/ribe.html

1182 Klage over ikke afholdt skifte i Ribe. 8.6.1776, fol.93B.
nemlig:
Terkild Andersen, der døde i Ribe 17.11.1773
Anders Andersen, der døde i Ribe 1.5.1776. A:
1) søster Karen*) Andersdatter, enke efter Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe, nu hos sin svigersøn
Jens Hansen, urmager g.m. Mette Kirstine Andersdatter
2) bror Christen Andersen, [skifte 11.3.1743 lbnr.825]. 2B:
a Karen Christensdatter i Nørre Farup
b Niels Christensen i Astrup i Brøns sogn.
Begge de afdøde brødre boede i Øster Vedsted i Ribe Domkirkes sogn indtil de fik fledføringskontrakt
med Anders Christensen Krejbjerg i Ribe i 1770.

- *) maybe an error for Maren  - see Census 1787

Index to Ribe city churchbooks:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17148249#188601,31878665 - left page: Kreyberg

- Anders died 1772, and Maren 1789.
 

Sorry, should be Maren died 1794:

https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167962,28207135 - No 31

https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167964,28207233 - left page: Oct. 2

Betrothal 16 Nov. 1741:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200723 - right page

Married 12 Apr. 1743:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200771 - left page, top

- Anders Christensen Skræder and Maren Andersdatter
 

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Well, that settles the question of Karen or Maren.  Interesting that even her brother Christen had a daughter Karen.

Thanks for finding that Inger.  Now I am off to find all their children.  I did not see any handy lists of children for Anders Christensen Krejberg on Nygårds.

I did see this probate record which could be a first wife?
795 Kirsten Sørensdatter i Ribe. 27.6.1739, fol.487B.
E: Anders Christensen Krejbjerg. B:
1) Søren Andersen 5 uger.

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

I found one birth record in Ribe Sankt Katherine for my Mette Kirstine Andersdatter Krejberg 2 Jul 1746.  Seems a big gap between betrothal and a child but I have been checking Ribe Domsogn and Ribe Sankt Katherine and she is the only child I have found so far.

Here #25 left side: https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206357

[Inger Toudal]

Betrothal 16 Nov. 1741:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200723 - right page

Married 12 Apr. 1743:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200771 - left page, top

- Anders Christensen Skræder and Maren Andersdatter
 

Correction: Married 12 Apr. 1742.

Maybe you could look for buried children from 1742 to 1745?

Yes, it seems that Anders' first wife died 1739.
 

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

Betrothal 16 Nov. 1741:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200723 - right page

Married 12 Apr. 1743:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125788#167922,28200771 - left page, top

- Anders Christensen Skræder and Maren Andersdatter
 

Correction: Married 12 Apr. 1742.

Maybe you could look for buried children from 1742 to 1745?

Yes, it seems that Anders' first wife died 1739.
 

I did catch the year of the marriage when I saved the document but thank you.

Yes, I will keep looking in birth and death records for children.

[Linda Michelle Thérèsa de Bodt Rosenland]

I have a question about the "Advent" year on birth and death records.  The way I look at the records it seems like the Advent year is the beginning next and documents that come after it are in this new year.  But, each time I look at the records I get confused.  Do I have the years of birth and death correct on these records?

Birth Jakob Godsksen Høyer 29 Sep 1744 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#29 top right):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206349

Birth Ellen Kathrine Godsksdatter Høyer 24 Jun 1746 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#24 top left):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206357

Birth Mette Kirstine Andersdatter Krejberg 2 Jul 1746 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#25 left page):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206357

Birth Karen Andersdatter Krejberg 9 Jun 1748 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#23 right page):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206371

Death Karen Andersdatter Krejberg 3 Sep 1748 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#39 right page age 14 weeks old):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167955,28206257

Birth Christian Godsksen Høyer 11 May 1749 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#18 upper right):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206375

Birth Andreas Godsksen Høyer 6 Jan 1753? or 1752? Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#7 left page):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206387

Birth Peder Godsksen Høyer 20 Jul 1755 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#21 left page):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167956,28206404

Death Andreas Godsksen Høyer 13 Feb 1756 Ribe Sankt Katherine, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark (#6 left page age 3 years old? Should this be 4 years old?):
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=17125796#167955,28206271