What is the surname of Karen Michelsdatter's father (Allerslev, Praesto)?

[Kerry Larson]

I'm looking for the father of Karen Michelsdatter who married Thomas Olsen in Allerslev in 1722 (link, #1 and #4 on left).  Michel appears as a witness in the baptisms of some of their children - link (2nd under 1723 on right), link (2nd on left).  What is his surname?  Some have transcribed it as Anders but the capital A looks different than others.

I can't find Karen's baptism, but there seems to be only one father named Michel in the records for the right time period and it seems he has the same name.  link - top left.

Thank you.   

[Ole Westermann]

The witness at the 2 baptisms is Michel Schreder (skrædder - tailor) in Allersløf, so his patronym is ...??
Looking back I found these children at image
86 in 1696 INGER - 94 in 1699 BIRTE - 102 in 1703 febr 11 KAREN - 113 in 1707 PEDER - 123 in 1711 MADTZ
- but I didn't find his marriage in the 1690ies there - maybe married in another parish
- as you see Karen was bp. Febr.11 (Taksigelsesdag - celebration of the victory at Copehagen in 1659 against Sweden)
If Peder and Madtz are his first sons, the patronym could be Pedersen or Madsen.

mvh Ole

[Ole Westermann]

Maybe Michel's baptism is here in 1668, Jan.26
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-994W-FW27?i=43&cc=2078555 left no 2 from top
Sexag. Peder Skreders Michel i Allers. Maren Dams bar, fad. Morten Jyde, Mette Tomases
 - same profession and same place -  so the patronym prob. Pedersen

Some burials at image
288 in 1724 Michel Skræders Søn Peder af Allerslev æt. 17 aar 4 uger 1 dag
280 in 1710        -do-             -    Madtz æt. 4 dage
284 in 1717        -do-            hustru af Allerslev (no name or age)

[Kerry Larson]

It's always a treat to read your replies Ole.  Thank you so much for the extra work you've done in finding additional records for this family.  I made the mistake of not looking for Karen's baptism record past 1702 because I assumed she would have been too young to marry in 1722.

Apparently this happened because her mother died young.  This should be the Skifteprotokol for her mother, Maren Nielsdatter (right page):  http://ao.salldata.dk/vis1.php?bsid=129880&side=439  Is there other genealogically significant information here such as relatives and their ages? 

[Lisa Petersen]

Here are the basics:

Ao 1717 den 3 Decb lod Mikel Pedersen Skræder i Allerslef...Skifte og deling efter hans afdöde Sl: Hustru Maren Nielsdatter...efterladte börn som er Döttrene Inger Mikels datter boende ibidm [Allerslef], og hafer Lars Grif til Egte, Birte Mikels datter 17 Aar hiemme Værende hos Faderen, Karen Mikels datter 16 Aar...hiemme...Sönnerne Peder Mikelsen 12 Aar, og Mads Mikelsen, ligeleedes begge hiemme hos Faderen...

No age for Mads Mikelsen.  Niels Stephansen and Jep Ibsen were assessors.

Good job finding this!

Lisa Petersen
near Washington D.C.

[Kerry Larson]

Thank you Lisa!  I appreciate your transcription of the relevant parts.  I wish I could take credit for finding it but that goes to Lars Skovvang Larsen.

[Kerry Larson]

Any chance that this is his skifte?  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-13PV-F7G5?i=68&cat=482602 (right page).  I can't make out most of the names but his known children were Inger, Metter, Birte, Karen, Peder, and Madtz.

[Ole Westermann]

Yes, it is. A summary in partly transcription

Paa Regimentskriver Jacobsens vegne, som Skifteforval-
ter, indfandt sig her i Allerslef ieg undertegnede Boye Jacob-
sen, ----- for at foretage Skifte og Deeling, efter afgangne
Huusmand Michel Pedersen, efter at derom ved Districtets
Birketing var skeet behørig tillysning, imellem fornevnte
Michel Pedersens Enke Voldborg Olsdatter paa den ene
og laugværge Andres Nielsen i Amendrup, og hendes med den Sal.
Mand, tilsammen havde Børn, Baade Stifbørn, og tillige
hendes egne ved den Sal. Mand sammenavlede Børn
1. ---- Enkens ved den Sal. Mand avlede Børn Som er
en Datter, Maren Michelsdatter gl 28 aar værende hiemme
hos Moderen;  Stifbørnene 1 Søn Madz Michelsen boende
i Allerslef, 1 Datter Karen Michelsdatter, havende til
Ægte Thomas Olsen her i Allerslef, nok 1 Datter Birthe Michels-
datter boende i Kiøbenhaun, Endvidere hafver den afdøde
Sal Mand haft en Datter, som haver hafft til Ægte Lars
Grif her i byen, der haver efterladt sig Børn, hvilke
skal træde i deres Moders Stæd, i Fald noget bliver
tilovers, som kand blive til Deeling, hvilket
denne Forretning nermere skal forklare. ...etc...
Boets Formue 16 Rd 3 mk 12 sk
Huuset - 9 Fag*- er meget brøstfældig - behøver 12 Rd 4 mk         *ca 13,5 m
...etc... Boets Besvær og Gield  23 - 4 - 6
... so nothing to heir.

mvh Ole

[Kerry Larson]

That's great!  Thanks for the summary Ole.  Do I have the following correct?  At the time of his death, he was married to Voldborg Olsdatter.  They had a 28 year old daughter named Maren.  His children from earlier marriage were Madz, Karen m. Thomas Olsen, and Birthe living in Kiøbenhaun.  Another daughter married Lars Grif (her children would inherit anything as she was deceased?).

[Ole Westermann]

Yes, that's correct.

[Kerry Larson]

Thanks Ole.

[Ole Westermann]

And Michel Pedersen's mother (no name and age) probably died allready in 1669
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L94W-FWZT?i=260&cc=2078555 left no 3 from top 11 Aug. Peder Skreders qvinde i Allisløf

Ole

[Kerry Larson]

Thanks for that extra tidbit Ole.