Looking for Niels Andersen Born 2 June 1852

Startet af Denise I, 15 Jun 2024 - 23:58

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Denise I

My great, great grandfather, Niels Andersen, was born in Denmark on June 2, 1852 (this was confirmed by his death certificate).  A relative said that he was from Wester Housen, Denmark.  The same relative said that his wife was from Shellurd and this turned out to be Sjælland.  He emigrated to Chicago, Illinois, United States in 1872 and was married in the US.  The only emigration record that matches a Niels Andersen that was his age, shows that he was from Odense.  I manually checked all of the baptism records in Odense County, but couldn't find him.  I also manually looked at all the baptism records in Ringkøbing, in case he was from "Vester Jylland". I checked all of the baptism records for any Niels Andersen that was in the Danish census and was born in 1852/1853.  Someone helped me check the Schleswig-Holstein church records for Westerhusen and that was also a dead end. I don't know where else to look.  If anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it.  Thank you for your time!

Bente Wanning

Do you know his parents names or any name of a sibling(s)
Niels Andersen is a very common name in Denmark.
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Bente Wanning 
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Britta Hansen

#2
A candidate

Niels Andersen *2. June 1850 - Vester Hassing, Kær, Aalborg
Parents: Karen Marie Nielsdatter and Anders Jacobsen

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Vesterhassing Skoledistrikt, en Gaard, 34, FT-1860, C9092
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Lars Nielsen      38      Gift      Gaardmand, Husfader            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Elisabeth Pedersdatter      30      Gift      hans Kone            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Larsdatter      4      Ugift      deres Børn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Ped. Martini Larsen      2      Ugift      deres Børn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Kristine Hansdatter      23      Ugift      Tjenestefolk            Aalborg 
Anders Thomsen      20      Ugift      Tjenestefolk            Øster Hassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Niels Henriksen      72      Gift      Aftægtsfolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Larsdatter      71      Gift      Aftægtsfolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Niels Andersen      10      Ugift      Plejesøn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 

His confirmation in 1864 Vester Hassing Parish
last record in the list #14
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Military Levying Rolls
1866_438_8 - I Amerika hvortil han rejste april 1872.
He went to America in April 1872

1877_438_8 - still in America
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Britta Hansen

britta.hansen12@gmail.com

Britta Hansen

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Vesterhassing, en Gaard, 33, FT-1855, C9087
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Lars Nielsen      33      Ugift      Gaardmand            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Niels Henriksen      67      Gift      Aftægtsfolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Larsdatter      66      Gift      Aftægtsfolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen M. Nielsdatter      35      Ugift      deres Datter            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt
Niels Andersen      5      Ugift      hendes Søn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Simon Christensen      19      Ugift      Karl            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 

His mother
Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Vesterhassing Bye, en Gaard, 35, FT-1850, C9084
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling i familien:    Erhverv:    Fødested:
Niels Henriksen     62     Gift          Gaardmand, Husfader     Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Larsdatter     61     Gift          hans Kone     Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen M. Nielsdatter     30     Ugift          deres Børn     Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Lars Nielsen     28     Ugift          deres Børn     Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Christen Nielsen     16     Ugift          Tjenestedreng     Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
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Inger Toudal

From the birth record:

Father of the child: Bachelor Anders Jacobsen from Raunskov, absent in the Army.

He could be here:

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Stae, Ravnskov, et hus, 24, FT-1834, A0340
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation: 
Jakob Christensen     58     Gift            Husmand.       
Maren Thomsdatter     46     Gift            hans kone.       
Thomas Christian Jakobsen     15     Ugift            deres søn.       
Anders Jakobsen     13     Ugift            deres søn.

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Stae, et boel, 185, FT-1845, A0332
Name:     Age:     Marital status:     Position in household:     Occupation:     Birthplace:
Jacob Christensen     69     gift            Boelsmand.      Øster Hassing sogn, Aalborg amt. 
Karen Jensdatter     41     gift            hans kone.      Ulsted sogn, Aalborg amt. 
Anders Jacobsen     24     ugift            deres søn.      her i sognet.
Povl Olesen     75     enkemand            Almisselem med forsørgelse fra Hals sogn.      Øster Hassing sogn, Aalborg amt. 
Niels Peter Hansen     4     ugift            Plejebarn.      Dronninglund sogn, Hjørring amt.   

It seems that Niels' parents never married:

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Gandrup, en Gaard, 52, FT-1860, C9092
Navn:     Alder:     Status:     Stilling i familien:     Erhverv:     Fødested:
Peder Larsen     46     Gift      Gaardmand, Husfader            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Marie Pedersdatter     49     Gift      hans Kone            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Cecilie Marie Pedersdatter     15     Ugift      deres Børn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Lars Peter Pedersen     9     Ugift      deres Børn            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen Andersdatter     30     Ugift      Tjenestefolk            Horsens Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Peder Pedersen     27     Ugift      Tjenestefolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Anders Jacobsen     38     Ugift      Tjenestefolk            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt

Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Vesterhassing Skoledistrikt, et Hus, 23, FT-1860, C9092
Navn:     Alder:     Status:     Stilling i familien:     Erhverv:     Fødested:
Sidsel Simonsdatter     64     Ugift      Huseier, Væverske            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Maren Jensdatter     12     Ugift      Plejedatter            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
Karen M. Nielsdatter     40     Ugift      Indsidder, Væverske            Vesterhassing Sogn, Aalborg Amt 
 
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Denise I

Wow!  Thank you all so much for your help!  I really appreciate you taking the time to research for me.  I apologize for not responding sooner, but I am in Hawai'i, so there is a 12 hour time difference with Denmark.

Everything seems to fit so perfectly with this Neils Andersen except the birth year.  I actually looked at Vester Hassing and Vester Hæsinge, but never thought to check different years.  Is there ever a reason that someone may change their birth year when emigrating? I had heard that some people in Schleswig-Holstein emigrated to avoid German military service.  I really want this to be him, but I don't want to assume.  All of the documents in America (death certificate, marriage license, census documents) corroborate the 1852 birth year.  Unfortunately those same documents only list Denmark as his place of birth (no town or parish).

Thank you again for your help!  If you have any other suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.  We are travelling to Denmark next year and would love to be able to visit his hometown.

Warmest Aloha,
Denise Ishikawa

Hans Rosendal

In 1870, Anders Jacobsen, aged 49, is still in Vester Hassing - unmarried and poor at a "Labor and Welfare Institution"

FT-1870, Aalborg, Kær, Vester Hassing, Arbejds- og forsørgelsesanstalten for Vester- og Øster Hassing sogne., -, 142
Navn:    Alder:    Status:    Stilling   Erhverv:    Fødested:
         i familien:
.....
Anders Jacobsen   49   ugift   -   Fattiglem.   Vester Hassing sogn, Kær herred,
               [Ålborg amt].
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Karen Marie Nielsdatter, aged 40, moved 1860-03-01 from Vester Hassing to Volstrup in Hjørring county
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21584046#356400,70429596
1860 #4:

she was married to Svend Andersen on 1860-05-25:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21695767#410587,75923866
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FT-1870, Hjørring, Dronninglund, Volstrup, Dyrheden, Huus, 27
Navn:                 Alder: Status:      Stilling      Erhverv:            Fødested:
                           i familien:
Svend Andersen         53   Gift     Huusfader   Arbeidsmand         Dyrhedengaard
Karen Mari Nielsen 49   Gift     Huusmoder                     Vester Hassing
Karen Mari Svendsen   13   Ugift     Barn                            Dyrheden
Hans Chr. Mortensen   54   Ugift   -           Paa fattigvæsenet     Gadholt, Understed Sogn

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Karen Marie Svendsen, aged 13, is the daughter of Svend Andersen and his first wife Maren Jacobsdatter!
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21695767#410590,75924017

Maren Jacobsdatter died on 1859-09-22:
https://arkivalieronline.rigsarkivet.dk/da/billedviser?epid=21695767#410584,75923764

Regards
Hans Rosendal


Lisa Petersen

According to the military levying rolls (links above in Britta's message #2), Niels Andersen was not the only man to leave Vester Hassing in April 1872.  There were 2 others who went to America at the same time:

Jens Thomsen, born 28/7 1850 in V. Hassing, son of Thomas Christian Hansen
Hans Peder Frederiksen, born 17/10 1850 in Horsens, son of Frederik Pedersen

If either of these men were friends with your Niels Andersen in America, it could mean that the Niels Andersen born in 1850 in Vester Hassing is yours, despite the 'wrong' birth year.

Lisa Petersen